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current set of projects on bitkeeper
by ron minnich 05 Jan '04

05 Jan '04

It's pretty impressive: http://www.bkbits.net/ ron

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Re: Source code control
by Adam Megacz 05 Jan '04

05 Jan '04

You really should check out darcs. I did an extensive arch/darcs comparison, and the XWT project (xwt.org) is going with the latter. Vastly simpler than either bk or arch but with all the same features. - a ebiederman(a)lnxi.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes: > This is just a heads up. I have been doing some investigation > into distributed version control systems. arch looks like it > usable and getting more usable. > > >From the design standpoint I don't see any big issues and > it appears to be the equal of bk etc. I think I see some > was to make it simpler and more powerful but that is not needed to > make a good revision control system. > > I need to do a little more testing to see what arch is actually like > to use. Before I seriously start advocating anything but I'm not > expecting any weird issues to crop up. Except possibly for some > issues running under cygwin, for the platform challenged. > > Once my evaluation is finished I plan on pushing the projects I work > on in that direction. So this is something to think about. > > Eric > _______________________________________________ > Linuxbios mailing list > Linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios > -- "If Darl McBride [the CEO of SCO, who claims the GPL 'destroys intellectual property'] was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution" -- Linus Torvalds

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Re: Tiny linux
by Adam Megacz 04 Jan '04

04 Jan '04

BTW, if you want super tiny kernels, check out Microsoft's (unpatented, surprisingly well documented) LZX compression format. It's specifically designed to compress x86 machine code, so it beats out all the general-purpose compression algorithms if the payload is a binary. I think libmspack has an LGPL'ed LZX compressor/decompressor. - a ebiederman(a)lnxi.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes: > Richard Smith <rsmith(a)bitworks.com> writes: > > > Has anyone tried this to see how small it compiles down to? > > I just looked. With everything turned off I have built a > 220K kernel. 371K uncompressed but that doesn't count. > > It looks like there is light at the end of the tunnel. > > Eric > _______________________________________________ > Linuxbios mailing list > Linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios > -- "If Darl McBride [the CEO of SCO, who claims the GPL 'destroys intellectual property'] was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution" -- Linus Torvalds

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IDEA: Linux kernel and pcbios compatibility...
by ebiederman＠lnxi.com 04 Jan '04

04 Jan '04

Brainstorming earlier today I think I have found a way to use an linux kernel for the boot loader and to implement pcbios compatibility without too much cost. The idea is to use a uclinux kernel. And implement a ``user space'' aplication that is a user space shim that makes kernel calls. There are a few nasty details to work out like how to handle services that are expected to work in vm86 mode. But I'm not certain I care. Other thoughts? After I come back from my christmas vacation I am going to have to try it and see how will it will actually work. Eric

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Re: Re:Booting USB keydrive from BIOS
by Pedro M. 03 Jan '04

03 Jan '04

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Latter" <Ian.Latter(a)mq.edu.au> To: "Pedro M." <pmacv(a)telefonica.net> Cc: <linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:04 AM Subject: Re: Re:Booting USB keydrive from BIOS > Ok, then I guess maybe my question should be; You said your > PC BIOS supported USB booting, but is your USB key able to > be booted? > I am not sure about it... I bought this modell (JetFlash usb 2.0 128 Mb---> Part #: TS128MJF2L ) because I saw : Window, Machintosh, Linux; boot up function--- can make JetFlash Bootable device "JetFlash can also be setup to be used as MS-DOS Boot Disk with the software included in the package" "JetFlash boot function requires Windows operating system, software installation and your motherboard need to support USB ZIP, USB-FDD or USB-HDD (in Windows XP only USB ZIP). Refer to your motherboard manual. Boot function only allow JetFlash to run MS-DOS programs, however, this does not make JetFlash as Rescue Disk or put Windows Startup files into JetFlash" http://www.transcendusa.com/FlashCard/docs/256MJF2L.pdf http://www.transcendusa.com/FlashCard/docs/TS4GJF2C-EN.pdf Are > you confident you have a bootable USB key? > > Further more, under the BIOS' I have access too with USB boot > capability, they tend to have differing types - such as; > > USB-FDD > USB-HDD > USB-ZIP > > I'm not sure if the syslinux version is going to be USB-FDD or > USB-HDD For Flonix is USB-FDD ( although sometimes , USB-HDD works, but not for me using Windows XP to prepare the booting files in the keydrive). Regards. P.D. : Has anyone obtained a good booting using Flonix with a keydrive ??. Can specify the trademark and modell of the keydrive ??.

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Re: Re:Booting USB keydrive from BIOS
by Pedro M. 03 Jan '04

03 Jan '04

Yes, for sure, step by step. Now I try to write http://linuxdocs.tuxfamily.org/flonix/wakka.php?wiki=BootUtility and find alternative solution... Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Latter" <Ian.Latter(a)mq.edu.au> To: "Pedro M." <pmacv(a)telefonica.net> Cc: <linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:33 AM Subject: Re:Booting USB keydrive from BIOS > > Hello Pedro, > > Have you followed their documentation? > http://linuxdocs.tuxfamily.org/flonix/doc/wakka.php?wiki=EnUsbEditionInstall > > I've not seen Flonix before, but this looks pretty straight > forward. Actually, last week I finished making a USB bootable > version of CHAOS for the wrist watch that they show in the > devices section on that site. I haven't tested it yet, but the > procedure I ended up with was very similar to what they seem > to have listed on that page. > > I tried to boot JetFlash ( http://www.transcendusa.com ) with Flonix....

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Booting USB keydrive from BIOS
by Pedro M. 03 Jan '04

03 Jan '04

I tried to boot JetFlash ( http://www.transcendusa.com ) with Flonix ( http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/flonix ), but something is wrong, because I only can boot it using a floppy. I have USB boot support in the BIOS. What can I do to boot the keydrive (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/keydrive ) with Flonix ???? Thanks in advance. ( I think sell bootable USB keydrives with Flonix pre-installed would be a great idea....).

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Re: ide emulation based on network block device for arbitrary OSes?
by Adam Megacz 02 Jan '04

02 Jan '04

Justin Cormack <justin(a)street-vision.com> writes: > I think you will find that Win2k server doesnt use BIOS disk requests, > accesses the hardware directly. Bleh. > Why not run it on VMware on a diskless Linux box? Their kernel modules have caused me no end of pain... main gripes being: a) System instability resulting from said modules. b) Their sinister "you must pay us more money every time Linus releases a new kernel" policy (when a new kernel comes out they only update the kernel modules for the newest vmware). I don't object to buying a new vmware when I want to run a new *guest* OS, but I figure that if I've paid them for the software, I should be able to continue using it for the same task forever even when I upgrade my host OS. If they ever release a version that doesn't require kernel modules, I'll be the first in line with a fistfull of cash... their product is otherwise fantastic. - a

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Re: ide emulation based on network block device for arbitrary OSes?
by Adam Megacz 02 Jan '04

02 Jan '04

I'd like to run Win2k server on a diskless box. I (unfortunately) need to have a Win2k server box around for testing an app that we develop on Linux but need to (occasionally) deploy on Windows. It's headless, so I just RDP in when I need to test stuff out. I guess I'm interested in the diskless aspect not to save the cost of a hard drive, but just because I like having all my hard disks in one machine. All my linux boxen boot off the network and mount their root partition off of a (very, very fast) RAID-5 array. So they all get four-spindle speed instead of single-spindle speed. - a ron minnich <rminnich(a)lanl.gov> writes: > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Adam Megacz wrote: > > > > > I've heard that you can use LinuxBIOS to bootload other operating > > systems (like Windows, etc). Is it possible for LinuxBIOS to boot the > > device and install a block of code in memory that handles BIOS disk > > requests using some sort of network block device protocol? > > ouch. What is the motivation? > > thanks > > ron > > _______________________________________________ > Linuxbios mailing list > Linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios > -- "If Darl McBride [the CEO of SCO, who claims the GPL 'destroys intellectual property'] was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution" -- Linus Torvalds

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