[LinuxBIOS] LinuxBIOS from Dell

[Danny Piccirillo]

I'm sure some of you are aware that LinuxBIOS appeared on Dell's IdeaStorm
website. At some point the status was set to ***ACKNOWLEDGED*** by a Dell
admin but has since been removed.
http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/62549 Maybe we can build up support
for this idea again?

[Corey Osgood]

Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> I'm sure some of you are aware that LinuxBIOS appeared on Dell's
> IdeaStorm website. At some point the status was set to
> ***ACKNOWLEDGED*** by a Dell admin but has since been removed.
> http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/62549 Maybe we can build up
> support for this idea again?

Hmm, what exactly does acknowledged mean, anyways? Seems like all it
means is, "hey, we saw it". I don't think that until we can get Windows
Vista running on a Core 2 Duo system that dell will seriously consider
this idea. I could be wrong, and really hope I am, as I'd love to see
them actually help with this.

-Corey

[Carl-Daniel Hailfinger]

On 10.09.2007 03:59, Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> I'm sure some of you are aware that LinuxBIOS appeared on Dell's IdeaStorm
> website. At some point the status was set to ***ACKNOWLEDGED*** by a Dell
> admin but has since been removed.
> http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/62549 Maybe we can build up support
> for this idea again?

http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/62549/LinuxBIOS_instead_of_proprietary...
now mentions that LinuxBIOS status is "Under Review".

However, this applies to a lot of ideas. We'll see what happens.

Carl-Daniel

[Corey Osgood]

Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
> On 10.09.2007 03:59, Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> > I'm sure some of you are aware that LinuxBIOS appeared on Dell's IdeaStorm
> > website. At some point the status was set to ***ACKNOWLEDGED*** by a Dell
> > admin but has since been removed.
> > http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/62549 Maybe we can build up support
> > for this idea again?
>
> http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/62549/LinuxBIOS_instead_of_proprietary...
> now mentions that LinuxBIOS status is "Under Review".
>
> However, this applies to a lot of ideas. We'll see what happens.
>
> Carl-Daniel

One of dell_admin1's more recent comments states that the "Acknowledged"
flag has been changed to "Under review". So essentially, nothing's
changed. We'll see what comes of it, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

-Corey

[Danny Piccirillo]

Well the more support people show
and the more we can expand upon the idea
to show Dell how it could be beneficial for them and their customers
the better the chance of seeing it actually go somewhere
Every comment makes a difference

On 9/24/07, Corey Osgood  wrote:
> Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
> > On 10.09.2007 03:59, Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> > > I'm sure some of you are aware that LinuxBIOS appeared on Dell's
>
> IdeaStorm
> > > website. At some point the status was set to ***ACKNOWLEDGED*** by a
>
> Dell
> > > admin but has since been removed.
> > > http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/62549 Maybe we can build up
>
> support
> > > for this idea again?
>
> http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/62549/LinuxBIOS_instead_of_proprietary...
> > now mentions that LinuxBIOS status is "Under Review".
> >
> > However, this applies to a lot of ideas. We'll see what happens.
> >
> > Carl-Daniel
>
> One of dell_admin1's more recent comments states that the "Acknowledged"
> flag has been changed to "Under review". So essentially, nothing's
> changed. We'll see what comes of it, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
>
> -Corey

[ron minnich]

I think it has to be an AMD laptop. Intel is just not gonna play at
this point, as far as I can tell.

Would be interesting to get Shuttleworth, AMD, this group, and a
vendor together. The key thing is you have to make a business case.
Businesses are averse to doing things for what they see as religious
reasons. There has to be a very solid, money-making reason to do it.

in some markets, the cost of the BIOS alone is a strong reason. At
embedded systems conference I saw how carefully costs are trimmed,
down to the penny. But the BIOS costs (per node) are 10 times what
they save on some parts.

Of course, we have to boot windows or find someone that does not care
about booting windows.

ron

[yhlu]

On 9/24/07, ron minnich  wrote:
> I think it has to be an AMD laptop. Intel is just not gonna play at
> this point, as far as I can tell.
> Of course, we have to boot windows or find someone that does not care
> about booting windows.

linux laptop as workstation ?

MSI or Arima seems have one MCP55 based laptop...

YH

[ron minnich]

On 9/25/07, yhlu  wrote:
> MSI or Arima seems have one MCP55 based laptop...

we keep going in circles.

what we MUST have:
1. laptop
2. chipset that we understand
3. flash we can pull out
4. known good path to a display device -- vga connector is ok to
start, but panel drivers
    are really hard

it would be nice to have a vendor. we talked to msi at one point but it died.

ron

[bari]

ron minnich wrote:
> what we MUST have:
> laptop
> chipset that we understand
> flash we can pull out

If we get a laptop with documentation I'll do the mods to get socketable 
Flash in there.

#2 is the main problem.

-Bari