Hey all
I took some pictures and re-added the earlier text outputs to create a single message with all available information. Maybe someone can put it on a wyse/s10 wiki page?
I also tried a Flashrom -E operation; which failed, so currently, flashrom can't erase this chip (yet) on the Wyse S10.
I did properly Read and Write the image back and a reboot later all was working still :)
Unfortunatly extracting anything useful from the Bios failed:
bios_extract S10_orig.rom Using file "S10_orig.rom" (2048kB) Error: Unable to detect BIOS Image type.
Strings was interesting enough. I changed the IP, something that might seem like a password and hostnames; just in case. So to me a big portion of the ICA information is still located in the flashrom; e.g. WyseOS definitely resides in the bios area somewhere; I suppose it's an option.rom or whatever for them?
1.0.4 unknown compression method invalid window size incorrect header check need dictionary incorrect data check invalid stored block lengths invalid block type invalid bit length repeat too many length or distance symbols oversubscribed dynamic bit lengths tree incomplete dynamic bit lengths tree oversubscribed literal/length tree incomplete literal/length tree invalid literal/length code invalid distance code inflate 1.0.4 Copyright 1995-1996 Mark Adler q55q 10.10.14.131 olddomain.local ve.nl Default ICA Default RDP wyse-1000 oldserver01 administrator Dasdfa8 <snip> XpressStart 5Reset the SEE Contents to Default Value(Ignore VPD). !No boot device present, halting. <snip> !No boot device present. Halting. JCALG1 Compression Library - Copyright (C) 1999,2000 Jeremy Collake http://www.collakesoftware.com <snip> )Keyboard failed to initialize. Halting. <snip> $VER4.11.00 $TIM15:51:11 $DAT04/23/2006 $CPR(c) 1999-2003 Copyright National Semiconductor $REL- $PLTSATURN_CALLISTO $USR1.14 Reserved _SYSID_ _UUID_ $CFG107^SATURN_CALLISTO^^1.14^ABC BBBAB^dowser.rom^BAAFA^10000^AAB^0^ABBAACDABBBBBA0DAC^0^^0^^0^^0^BAKEJJABB^0000^00AEIEIEIEI^usb.vsm kbd.vsm uart.vsm^^93C46.ASM VPD.ASM ITE8761.ASM^A^RTSPXE_M.LOM^DA^uhci_m.rom^CB^ ^00^ ^00^ ^00^ ^00^g^^g^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^ $CFE^5535.asm^5535sio.asm^93C46.asm^itable.asm^ite8761.asm^ns36x.asm^spdi2c.asm^VPD.asm^^ $CFO Maximum number of warnings exceeded.
interesting btw that it menions 5535 here int he ASM bits; where the chip really is a 5536. Grepping the strings output for 5536 yields nothing.
Anyway, I won't be able to quite easily extract a VSA. Video rom worked from my Ubuntu 10.04 USB stick, getting it from /dev/mem; well i think it worked, here is what strings thinks of this 32kb file.
K7400 VIDEO IBM VGA Compatible 05/06/04051562LGC JVGA BIOS - Version 5.30a Copyright (C) 2003-2004 Advanced Micro Devices <snip> Advanced Micro Devices Integrated Graphics
VGABIOS Version 5.30 GX2VG Version 0.00 Memory Size = 4 Meg 5 Meg 6 Meg 7 Meg 8 Meg 9 Meg 10 Meg 11 Meg 12 Meg 13 Meg 14 Meg 15 Meg 16 Meg w-t < Advanced Micro Devices PCIR" VESA Elpin Systems VGA BIOS GEODE GX2 Version 5.30 <snip> Larry Coffey <snip>
Hoepfully someone can make something usefull from all this :S Btw I think the memory size is set from the bios and uses system ram ...
On Wed, 26 May 2010 18:34:40 +0200, Oliver Schinagl oliver@schinagl.nl wrote:
Hey all
I took some pictures and re-added the earlier text outputs to create a single message with all available information. Maybe someone can put it on a wyse/s10 wiki page?
I also tried a Flashrom -E operation; which failed, so currently, flashrom can't erase this chip (yet) on the Wyse S10.
I did properly Read and Write the image back and a reboot later all was working still :)
Unfortunatly extracting anything useful from the Bios failed:
bios_extract S10_orig.rom Using file "S10_orig.rom" (2048kB) Error: Unable to detect BIOS Image type.
Strings was interesting enough. I changed the IP, something that might seem like a password and hostnames; just in case. So to me a big portion of the ICA information is still located in the flashrom; e.g. WyseOS definitely resides in the bios area somewhere; I suppose it's an option.rom or whatever for them?
1.0.4 unknown compression method invalid window size incorrect header check need dictionary incorrect data check invalid stored block lengths invalid block type invalid bit length repeat too many length or distance symbols oversubscribed dynamic bit lengths tree incomplete dynamic bit lengths tree oversubscribed literal/length tree incomplete literal/length tree invalid literal/length code invalid distance code inflate 1.0.4 Copyright 1995-1996 Mark Adler q55q 10.10.14.131 olddomain.local ve.nl Default ICA Default RDP wyse-1000 oldserver01 administrator Dasdfa8
<snip> XpressStart 5Reset the SEE Contents to Default Value(Ignore VPD). !No boot device present, halting. <snip> !No boot device present. Halting. JCALG1 Compression Library - Copyright (C) 1999,2000 Jeremy Collake http://www.collakesoftware.com <snip> )Keyboard failed to initialize. Halting. <snip> $VER4.11.00 $TIM15:51:11 $DAT04/23/2006 $CPR(c) 1999-2003 Copyright National Semiconductor $REL- $PLTSATURN_CALLISTO $USR1.14 Reserved _SYSID_ _UUID_ $CFG107^SATURN_CALLISTO^^1.14^ABC
BBBAB^dowser.rom^BAAFA^10000^AAB^0^ABBAACDABBBBBA0DAC^0^^0^^0^^0^BAKEJJABB^0000^00AEIEIEIEI^usb.vsm
kbd.vsm uart.vsm^^93C46.ASM VPD.ASM ITE8761.ASM^A^RTSPXE_M.LOM^DA^uhci_m.rom^CB^ ^00^ ^00^ ^00^ ^00^g^^g^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^
$CFE^5535.asm^5535sio.asm^93C46.asm^itable.asm^ite8761.asm^ns36x.asm^spdi2c.asm^VPD.asm^^
$CFO Maximum number of warnings exceeded.
interesting btw that it menions 5535 here int he ASM bits; where the chip really is a 5536. Grepping the strings output for 5536 yields
nothing.
Anyway, I won't be able to quite easily extract a VSA. Video rom worked from my Ubuntu 10.04 USB stick, getting it from /dev/mem; well i think it worked, here is what strings thinks of this 32kb file.
K7400 VIDEO IBM VGA Compatible 05/06/04051562LGC JVGA BIOS - Version 5.30a Copyright (C) 2003-2004 Advanced Micro Devices
<snip> Advanced Micro Devices Integrated Graphics
VGABIOS Version 5.30 GX2VG Version 0.00 Memory Size = 4 Meg 5 Meg 6 Meg 7 Meg 8 Meg 9 Meg 10 Meg 11 Meg 12 Meg 13 Meg 14 Meg 15 Meg 16 Meg w-t < Advanced Micro Devices PCIR" VESA Elpin Systems VGA BIOS GEODE GX2 Version 5.30
<snip> Larry Coffey <snip>
Hoepfully someone can make something usefull from all this :S Btw I think the memory size is set from the bios and uses system ram ...
Interesting. My S30 looks nothing like yours. I will try to take some pics tonight. If you would like a wiki account please contact Stefan. The original BIOS is made by Insyde Software and looks the same as mine.
On 05/27/10 14:23, Joseph Smith wrote:
On Wed, 26 May 2010 18:34:40 +0200, Oliver Schinagl oliver@schinagl.nl wrote:
Hey all
I took some pictures and re-added the earlier text outputs to create a single message with all available information. Maybe someone can put it on a wyse/s10 wiki page?
I also tried a Flashrom -E operation; which failed, so currently, flashrom can't erase this chip (yet) on the Wyse S10.
I did properly Read and Write the image back and a reboot later all was working still :)
Unfortunatly extracting anything useful from the Bios failed:
bios_extract S10_orig.rom Using file "S10_orig.rom" (2048kB) Error: Unable to detect BIOS Image type.
Strings was interesting enough. I changed the IP, something that might seem like a password and hostnames; just in case. So to me a big portion of the ICA information is still located in the flashrom; e.g. WyseOS definitely resides in the bios area somewhere; I suppose it's an option.rom or whatever for them?
1.0.4 unknown compression method invalid window size incorrect header check need dictionary incorrect data check invalid stored block lengths invalid block type invalid bit length repeat too many length or distance symbols oversubscribed dynamic bit lengths tree incomplete dynamic bit lengths tree oversubscribed literal/length tree incomplete literal/length tree invalid literal/length code invalid distance code inflate 1.0.4 Copyright 1995-1996 Mark Adler q55q 10.10.14.131 olddomain.local ve.nl Default ICA Default RDP wyse-1000 oldserver01 administrator Dasdfa8
<snip> XpressStart 5Reset the SEE Contents to Default Value(Ignore VPD). !No boot device present, halting. <snip> !No boot device present. Halting. JCALG1 Compression Library - Copyright (C) 1999,2000 Jeremy Collake http://www.collakesoftware.com <snip> )Keyboard failed to initialize. Halting. <snip> $VER4.11.00 $TIM15:51:11 $DAT04/23/2006 $CPR(c) 1999-2003 Copyright National Semiconductor $REL- $PLTSATURN_CALLISTO $USR1.14 Reserved _SYSID_ _UUID_ $CFG107^SATURN_CALLISTO^^1.14^ABC
BBBAB^dowser.rom^BAAFA^10000^AAB^0^ABBAACDABBBBBA0DAC^0^^0^^0^^0^BAKEJJABB^0000^00AEIEIEIEI^usb.vsm
kbd.vsm uart.vsm^^93C46.ASM VPD.ASM ITE8761.ASM^A^RTSPXE_M.LOM^DA^uhci_m.rom^CB^ ^00^ ^00^ ^00^ ^00^g^^g^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^
$CFE^5535.asm^5535sio.asm^93C46.asm^itable.asm^ite8761.asm^ns36x.asm^spdi2c.asm^VPD.asm^^
$CFO Maximum number of warnings exceeded.
interesting btw that it menions 5535 here int he ASM bits; where the chip really is a 5536. Grepping the strings output for 5536 yields
nothing.
Anyway, I won't be able to quite easily extract a VSA. Video rom worked from my Ubuntu 10.04 USB stick, getting it from /dev/mem; well i think it worked, here is what strings thinks of this 32kb file.
K7400 VIDEO IBM VGA Compatible 05/06/04051562LGC JVGA BIOS - Version 5.30a Copyright (C) 2003-2004 Advanced Micro Devices
<snip> Advanced Micro Devices Integrated Graphics
VGABIOS Version 5.30 GX2VG Version 0.00 Memory Size = 4 Meg 5 Meg 6 Meg 7 Meg 8 Meg 9 Meg 10 Meg 11 Meg 12 Meg 13 Meg 14 Meg 15 Meg 16 Meg w-t < Advanced Micro Devices PCIR" VESA Elpin Systems VGA BIOS GEODE GX2 Version 5.30
<snip> Larry Coffey <snip>
Hoepfully someone can make something usefull from all this :S Btw I think the memory size is set from the bios and uses system ram ...
Interesting. My S30 looks nothing like yours. I will try to take some pics tonight. If you would like a wiki account please contact Stefan. The original BIOS is made by Insyde Software and looks the same as mine.
I then wonder, how the S50 would look like and compares to the S10 ...
Interesting. My S30 looks nothing like yours. I will try to take some
pics
tonight. If you would like a wiki account please contact Stefan. The original BIOS is made by Insyde Software and looks the same as mine.
I then wonder, how the S50 would look like and compares to the S10 ...
Hmm, you would have to ask Nils about that one.
On 5/26/10 6:34 PM, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
Strings was interesting enough. I changed the IP, something that might seem like a password and hostnames; just in case. So to me a big portion of the ICA information is still located in the flashrom; e.g. WyseOS definitely resides in the bios area somewhere; I suppose it's an option.rom or whatever for them?
1.0.4 unknown compression method invalid window size
Please do not sent excerpts of closed licensed material to this mailing list.
Hoepfully someone can make something usefull from all this :S Btw I think the memory size is set from the bios and uses system ram ...
Stefan
On 05/27/10 16:06, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
On 5/26/10 6:34 PM, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
Strings was interesting enough. I changed the IP, something that might seem like a password and hostnames; just in case. So to me a big portion of the ICA information is still located in the flashrom; e.g. WyseOS definitely resides in the bios area somewhere; I suppose it's an option.rom or whatever for them?
1.0.4 unknown compression method invalid window size
Please do not sent excerpts of closed licensed material to this mailing list.
Wouldn't strings somefile.rom be fair use? With the limited output it generates anyway; It is a thin line I suppose, I'll agree with that, I didn't realize giving some general information about the system crossed that line ... more specifically what information would be ok to help identify and what info would be crossing it. What about a wiki page, would it be allowed to live on there?
Hoepfully someone can make something usefull from all this :S Btw I think the memory size is set from the bios and uses system ram ...
Stefan
Sorry,
Oliver
On Thu, 27 May 2010 16:44:44 +0200, Oliver Schinagl oliver@schinagl.nl wrote:
On 05/27/10 16:06, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
On 5/26/10 6:34 PM, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
Strings was interesting enough. I changed the IP, something that might seem like a password and hostnames; just in case. So to me a big
portion
of the ICA information is still located in the flashrom; e.g. WyseOS definitely resides in the bios area somewhere; I suppose it's an option.rom or whatever for them?
1.0.4 unknown compression method invalid window size
Please do not sent excerpts of closed licensed material to this mailing list.
Wouldn't strings somefile.rom be fair use? With the limited output it generates anyway; It is a thin line I suppose, I'll agree with that, I didn't realize giving some general information about the system crossed that line ... more specifically what information would be ok to help identify and what info would be crossing it. What about a wiki page, would it be allowed to live on there?
Sorry no. We have to be careful about that kind of stuff. It is not really that important anyways..... What would be neat to see is the serialice output :-)
On 05/27/10 16:54, Joseph Smith wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2010 16:44:44 +0200, Oliver Schinagl oliver@schinagl.nl wrote:
On 05/27/10 16:06, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
On 5/26/10 6:34 PM, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
Strings was interesting enough. I changed the IP, something that might seem like a password and hostnames; just in case. So to me a big
portion
of the ICA information is still located in the flashrom; e.g. WyseOS definitely resides in the bios area somewhere; I suppose it's an option.rom or whatever for them?
1.0.4 unknown compression method invalid window size
Please do not sent excerpts of closed licensed material to this mailing list.
Wouldn't strings somefile.rom be fair use? With the limited output it generates anyway; It is a thin line I suppose, I'll agree with that, I didn't realize giving some general information about the system crossed that line ... more specifically what information would be ok to help identify and what info would be crossing it. What about a wiki page, would it be allowed to live on there?
Sorry no. We have to be careful about that kind of stuff. It is not really that important anyways..... What would be neat to see is the serialice output :-)
If you could instruct me how to obtain this; I can try :) I have no clue about what you are speaking, and have still to verify if my age old nullmodem cable still works.
(and a spot where to put it without getting into (too much) trouble)
On Thu, 27 May 2010 17:17:40 +0200, Oliver Schinagl oliver@schinagl.nl wrote:
On 05/27/10 16:54, Joseph Smith wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2010 16:44:44 +0200, Oliver Schinagl oliver@schinagl.nl wrote:
On 05/27/10 16:06, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
On 5/26/10 6:34 PM, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
Strings was interesting enough. I changed the IP, something that
might
seem like a password and hostnames; just in case. So to me a big
portion
of the ICA information is still located in the flashrom; e.g. WyseOS definitely resides in the bios area somewhere; I suppose it's an option.rom or whatever for them?
1.0.4 unknown compression method invalid window size
Please do not sent excerpts of closed licensed material to this
mailing
list.
Wouldn't strings somefile.rom be fair use? With the limited output it generates anyway; It is a thin line I suppose, I'll agree with that, I didn't realize giving some general information about the system crossed that line ... more specifically what information would be ok to help identify and what info would be crossing it. What about a wiki page, would it be allowed to live on there?
Sorry no. We have to be careful about that kind of stuff. It is not really that important anyways..... What would be neat to see is the serialice output :-)
If you could instruct me how to obtain this; I can try :) I have no clue about what you are speaking, and have still to verify if my age old nullmodem cable still works.
(and a spot where to put it without getting into (too much) trouble)
SerialICE does not give away vendor BIOS information. It is layer between BIOS and hardware that traps (to serial console output) all r/w accesses and the order they are executed.
On 27/05/2010 15:44, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
On 05/27/10 16:06, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
Please do not sent excerpts of closed licensed material to this mailing list.
Wouldn't strings somefile.rom be fair use? With the limited output it generates anyway; It is a thin line I suppose, I'll agree with that, I didn't realize giving some general information about the system crossed that line ... more specifically what information would be ok to help identify and what info would be crossing it. What about a wiki page, would it be allowed to live on there?
I was wondering about this when I saw the original e-mail. Strings aren't code, are they? Are strings copyright? Trademarked? What about posting a screen-shot of a BIOS setup screen? That would contain some of them. How about a photo of a motherboard which contains copyright/trademarked names/logos?
Yes, lots of questions and no answers. I suppose it depends which laws of which countries you care about. :)
If I wasn't sure I would probably post a URL to the list, linking to whatever it was I wanted to share.
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