Re: [coreboot] AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[Myles Watson]

> To: Myles Watson

If you send your questions to the list you'll generally get better answers.
> I'm comment out line
>
> option CONFIG_FALLBACK_SIZE = CONFIG_ROM_SIZE
>
> and get a successfull build.
>
> Also i'am turn on debug with level 8 as recommended and make correct
> setup for FALLBACK_IMAGE_SIZE
>
> But after i'am flash rom image on the chip with hardware programmer
> and attach my minicom terminal via COM port i can't see anything debug
> output.
>
> Seems to be the code from IEI pci-isa-lx800 can't properly initialize
> my SuperIO chip or something else. I have no idea what do next.
> > I have a motherboard from unknown manufacturer based on the AMD Geode
> > LX 800 and the CS5536 with Winbond W83627HG

The iei/pci-isa-lx800 has a Winbond W83627HF.
It looks like the cs5536 has a few board-specific settings.

Suggestions from anyone?  I've never played with a geode board.

Thanks,
Myles

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[Myles Watson]

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Myles Watson wrote:
> > But after i'am flash rom image on the chip with hardware programmer
> > and attach my minicom terminal via COM port i can't see anything debug
> > output.
> >
> > Seems to be the code from IEI pci-isa-lx800 can't properly initialize
> > my SuperIO chip or something else. I have no idea what do next.
> > > I have a motherboard from unknown manufacturer based on the AMD Geode
> > > LX 800 and the CS5536 with Winbond W83627HG
>
> The iei/pci-isa-lx800 has a Winbond W83627HF.

http://www.winbond-usa.com/products/winbond_products/pdfs/PCIC/W83627HF_HGb....
I guess they share a datasheet, so that's probably not the problem.

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[ron minnich]

Suggestion is to look at the board and tell us what chips it has.

Then, try to see what chip serial is connected to -- 55336 or superio
(if it has one)

ron

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[ron minnich]

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:06 AM, ron minnich wrote:
> Suggestion is to look at the board and tell us what chips it has.

it was pointed out to me that you already told us this info, but:
> Then, try to see what chip serial is connected to -- 55336 or superio

we still don't know this. I've seen boards which had a superio and
still used 5536 for serial ... weird.

ron

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[Carl-Daniel Hailfinger]

Hi Vladimir,

does the board work with the current BIOS?

In general, it is recommended to use v3 for all GeodeLX targets.

Regards,
Carl-Daniel

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[Vladimir Alexeev]

Yes, this board work with current BIOS. But this BIOS is fully
propretary. I can't to log in BIOS Setup.
Some strings in the image sign to GENERAL SOFTWARE (www.gensw.com) but
their site are closed.

Current BIOS are fully closed. I can post it if someone have a time
for this rubbish - do not spend the time on this.

I hope that codebase of coreboot project help me to understand how
System BIOS works. But i think my current skills not sufficient.

Myles, Ron, Carl-Danial
Big thanks for you time and tips

Keep on rockin! =)
I belive in the Coreboot. It's a great project!

2009/8/27 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger :
> Hi Vladimir,
>
> does the board work with the current BIOS?
>
> In general, it is recommended to use v3 for all GeodeLX targets.
>
> Regards,
> Carl-Daniel

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[Myles Watson]

> Yes, this board work with current BIOS. But this BIOS is fully
> propretary. I can't to log in BIOS Setup.
> Some strings in the image sign to GENERAL SOFTWARE (www.gensw.com) but
> their site are closed.

Can you boot into Linux to do an lspci, etc?  That would be helpful.

lspci -tvnn
superiotool -dV
flashrom -V

Thanks,
Myles

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[Gregg C Levine]

Hello!
I just checked your facts, Vladimir, regarding General Software at
http://www.gensw.com and indeed that spot is holding a landing page. (That
means that the domain is there but no content is available.)

For me this is sad news as I was a great fan of their embedded DOS. 
However, can you tell us who it is who made the board you are having issues
with? This might be a big help.

And of course the usual requests:
"Can you boot into Linux to do an lspci, etc?  That would be helpful.

lspci -tvnn
 superiotool -dV
 flashrom -V "
--
Gregg C Levine [e-mail]
"The Force will be with you always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: coreboot-bounces+hansolofalcon=[e-mail]

[mailto:coreboot-
> bounces+hansolofalcon=[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Myles

Watson
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:00 PM
> To: 'Vladimir Alexeev'
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [coreboot] AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536
> > Yes, this board work with current BIOS. But this BIOS is fully
> > propretary. I can't to log in BIOS Setup.
> > Some strings in the image sign to GENERAL SOFTWARE (www.gensw.com) but
> > their site are closed.
>
> Can you boot into Linux to do an lspci, etc?  That would be helpful.
>
> lspci -tvnn
> superiotool -dV
> flashrom -V
>
> Thanks,
> Myles

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[Vladimir Alexeev]

I'm check their mail server via DNS records for gensw.com and the
result is negative.
No mail server registred for this domain. This is realy bad. Seems to
be thier company are closed for contacts via email.

Global crysis must be to eat the GENERAL SOFTWARE.

I'm try to boot linux on this motherboard. But currently without any success.

Myles, Ron thanks for ideas and datasheet for WINBOND W83627HG

I'm checked (with Multimeter turned on resistance meter) the circuits
beetwen COM1 DB-9 coonnectors and PINS number 53 and 54 (Serial Input
& Output for COM/UART A) on the W83627HG.
The reuslt is my COM1 is connected to W83627HG:
DB-9 pin 2 to W83627HG pin 53 - 9kOm
DB-9 pin 3 to W83627HG pin 54 - tester not indicate Resistance, but
i'm not shure that must be.

Motherboard doesn't have any PCI slot for POST card.

How do you thinks - it's possible to do something?

2009/8/28 Gregg C Levine :
> Hello!
> I just checked your facts, Vladimir, regarding General Software at
> http://www.gensw.com and indeed that spot is holding a landing page. (That
> means that the domain is there but no content is available.)
>
> For me this is sad news as I was a great fan of their embedded DOS.
> However, can you tell us who it is who made the board you are having issues
> with? This might be a big help.
>
> And of course the usual requests:
> "Can you boot into Linux to do an lspci, etc?  That would be helpful.
>
> lspci -tvnn
>  superiotool -dV
>  flashrom -V "
> --
> Gregg C Levine [e-mail]
> "The Force will be with you always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: coreboot-bounces+hansolofalcon=[e-mail]
>
> [mailto:coreboot-
> > bounces+hansolofalcon=[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Myles
>
> Watson
> > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:00 PM
> > To: 'Vladimir Alexeev'
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [coreboot] AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536
> > > Yes, this board work with current BIOS. But this BIOS is fully
> > > propretary. I can't to log in BIOS Setup.
> > > Some strings in the image sign to GENERAL SOFTWARE (www.gensw.com) but
> > > their site are closed.
> >
> > Can you boot into Linux to do an lspci, etc?  That would be helpful.
> >
> > lspci -tvnn
> > superiotool -dV
> > flashrom -V
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Myles

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[Stefan Reinauer]

On 8/28/09 11:41 AM, Vladimir Alexeev wrote:
> I'm check their mail server via DNS records for gensw.com and the
> result is negative.
> No mail server registred for this domain. This is realy bad. Seems to
> be thier company are closed for contacts via email.

Seems Phoenix got 'em:

$ host gensw.com
gensw.com has address 216.227.217.181
gensw.com mail is handled by 5 scl-mta.phoenix.com.
gensw.com mail is handled by 10 twn-mta.phoenix.com.

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[Vladimir Alexeev]

hmm...
realy on another part of internet, from another host i have

srv1# host gensw.com
gensw.com has address 216.227.217.181
gensw.com mail is handled (pri=10) by twn-mta.phoenix.com
gensw.com mail is handled (pri=5) by scl-mta.phoenix.com

but from my network host (1) returns error.

sorry for my mistakes.

2009/8/28 Stefan Reinauer :
> On 8/28/09 11:41 AM, Vladimir Alexeev wrote:
> > I'm check their mail server via DNS records for gensw.com and the
> > result is negative.
> > No mail server registred for this domain. This is realy bad. Seems to
> > be thier company are closed for contacts via email.
>
> Seems Phoenix got 'em:
>
> $ host gensw.com
> gensw.com has address 216.227.217.181
> gensw.com mail is handled by 5 scl-mta.phoenix.com.
> gensw.com mail is handled by 10 twn-mta.phoenix.com.

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[Marc Jones]

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Vladimir
Alexeev wrote:
> hmm...
> realy on another part of internet, from another host i have
>
> srv1# host gensw.com
> gensw.com has address 216.227.217.181
> gensw.com mail is handled (pri=10) by twn-mta.phoenix.com
> gensw.com mail is handled (pri=5) by scl-mta.phoenix.com

Phoenix acquired General Software last year.

http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2008/09/01/daily3.html?ana=from_r...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Technologies

Marc

AMD Geode LX 800 and the CS5536

[ron minnich]

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Marc Jones wrote:
> http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2008/09/01/daily3.html?ana=from_r...
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Technologies

interesting, the consolidation continues. Do you think they killed the
product or are still reselling it? I am guessing the former.

ron

Phoenix Technologies and General Software

[Andrew Goodbody]

ron minnich wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Marc Jones wrote:
> > http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2008/09/01/daily3.html?ana=from_r...
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Technologies
>
> interesting, the consolidation continues. Do you think they killed the
> product or are still reselling it? I am guessing the former.
>
> ron

Phoenix are still selling it.
http://www.phoenix.com/en/Embedded/Products/Core+Bios+Products/Embedded+BIOS...

Andrew

Phoenix Technologies and General Software

[Gregg C Levine]

Hello!
Yes indeed, I did look at the page.

But I am miffed over the passing of General Software. The fellow who
launched it, escaped from Micro$~ft to create a version of DOS that was
real-time friendly. And then they buried that product hoping to capitalize
on the growing embedded BIOS market... I believe that's what prompted
Phoenix to grab them, to rescue the company before it made anymore bad
decisions.....

Now Andrew if we could track down a collection of Tadpole VME bus based
boards wearing the M68K family of processors......

(Ignore that remark fellow Coreboot participants, that's a side-remark to
Andrew G.
--
Gregg C Levine [e-mail]
"The Force will be with you always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]

On
> Behalf Of Andrew Goodbody
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:29 PM
> To: coreboot
> Subject: Re: [coreboot] Phoenix Technologies and General Software
>
> ron minnich wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Marc Jones wrote:
> > >

http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2008/09/01/daily3.html?ana=from_r
ss
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Technologies
> >
> > interesting, the consolidation continues. Do you think they killed the
> > product or are still reselling it? I am guessing the former.
> >
> > ron
>
> Phoenix are still selling it.

http://www.phoenix.com/en/Embedded/Products/Core+Bios+Products/Embedded+BIOS
/de
> fault.htm
>
> Andrew

Phoenix Technologies and General Software

[greg]

> Now Andrew if we could track down a collection of Tadpole VME bus based
> boards wearing the M68K family of processors......
> (Ignore that remark fellow Coreboot participants, that's a side-remark to
> Andrew G.

Now if I could only find a spare VME chasis to put this here TP43M in,
I could have a fiddle with it... :)

greg

Phoenix Technologies and General Software

[Andrew Goodbody]

greg wrote:
> > Now Andrew if we could track down a collection of Tadpole VME bus based
> > boards wearing the M68K family of processors......
> > (Ignore that remark fellow Coreboot participants, that's a side-remark to
> > Andrew G.
>
> Now if I could only find a spare VME chasis to put this here TP43M in,
> I could have a fiddle with it... :)
>
> greg

Sorry guys but that's the wrong Tadpole. AFAIK the VME stuff was by 
Tadpole Technology which is I believe no longer in existence. I work for 
what is left of Tadpole Computer.

Andrew