[LinuxBIOS] Solaris

[Justin Cormack]

Has anyone looked at what it would take to get Solaris booting under
Linuxbios on Opteron?

If not I might dig around (there is a modified grub - I think that does
some of the init work; one suspects that because of its heritage it is
quite BIOS-unencumbered).

justin

[yhlu]

I guess LinuxBIOS+OpenBIOS could help.

which solaris version?

Is there special solaris version support Opteron in 64bit?

YH

On 15 Jun 2005 18:12:36 +0000, Justin Cormack  wrote:
> Has anyone looked at what it would take to get Solaris booting under
> Linuxbios on Opteron?
>
> If not I might dig around (there is a modified grub - I think that does
> some of the init work; one suspects that because of its heritage it is
> quite BIOS-unencumbered).
>
> justin
>
> LinuxBIOS mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

[Gregg C Levine]

Hello from Gregg C Levine
Funny you should be asking that question.
At an event the company called "Boot Camp", they displayed laptops
running Opterons, and Solaris, via the AMD64 code. I have here several
copies of X86, and SPARC Solaris products. Currently there is default
support for AMD64 based systems including their own boxes. This is all
via Solaris 10.
----
Gregg C Levine [e-mail]
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"The Force will be with you... Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]

[mailto:[e-mail]]
> On Behalf Of yhlu
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:48 PM
> To: Justin Cormack
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [LinuxBIOS] Solaris
>
> I guess LinuxBIOS+OpenBIOS could help.
>
> which solaris version?
>
> Is there special solaris version support Opteron in 64bit?
>
> YH
>
> On 15 Jun 2005 18:12:36 +0000, Justin Cormack

 wrote:
> > Has anyone looked at what it would take to get Solaris booting

under
> > Linuxbios on Opteron?
> >
> > If not I might dig around (there is a modified grub - I think that

does
> > some of the init work; one suspects that because of its heritage

it is
> > quite BIOS-unencumbered).
> >
> > justin
> >
> > LinuxBIOS mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
>
> LinuxBIOS mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

[Greg Watson]

FYI, Sun approached me a couple of years ago at USENIX about  
LinuxBIOS/OpenBIOS. I tried following up with them, but to no avail.  
Maybe now is the time...

Greg

On Jun 15, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> Funny you should be asking that question.
> At an event the company called "Boot Camp", they displayed laptops
> running Opterons, and Solaris, via the AMD64 code. I have here several
> copies of X86, and SPARC Solaris products. Currently there is default
> support for AMD64 based systems including their own boxes. This is all
> via Solaris 10.
> Gregg C Levine [e-mail]
>
> "The Force will be with you... Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail]
>
> [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > On Behalf Of yhlu
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:48 PM
> > To: Justin Cormack
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [LinuxBIOS] Solaris
> >
> > I guess LinuxBIOS+OpenBIOS could help.
> >
> > which solaris version?
> >
> > Is there special solaris version support Opteron in 64bit?
> >
> > YH
> >
> > On 15 Jun 2005 18:12:36 +0000, Justin Cormack
>
>  wrote:
> > > Has anyone looked at what it would take to get Solaris booting
>
> under
> > > Linuxbios on Opteron?
> > >
> > > If not I might dig around (there is a modified grub - I think that
>
> does
> > > some of the init work; one suspects that because of its heritage
>
> it is
> > > quite BIOS-unencumbered).
> > >
> > > justin
> > >
> > > LinuxBIOS mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
> >
> > LinuxBIOS mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
>
> LinuxBIOS mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

[Justin Cormack]

On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 17:47, yhlu wrote:
> I guess LinuxBIOS+OpenBIOS could help.
>
> which solaris version?
>
> Is there special solaris version support Opteron in 64bit?

www.opensolaris.com

Its approximately the 10.1 release, with source code, full Opteron
support in 64 bit...

Looked at grub, the patches are only for ufs file system; havent looked
much at the kernel init yet.

Justin
> YH
>
> On 15 Jun 2005 18:12:36 +0000, Justin Cormack  wrote:
> > Has anyone looked at what it would take to get Solaris booting under
> > Linuxbios on Opteron?
> >
> > If not I might dig around (there is a modified grub - I think that does
> > some of the init work; one suspects that because of its heritage it is
> > quite BIOS-unencumbered).
> >
> > justin
> >
> > LinuxBIOS mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

[Ronald G. Minnich]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Justin Cormack wrote:
> Has anyone looked at what it would take to get Solaris booting under
> Linuxbios on Opteron?

can you find out if they do BIOS calls? What kind of tables do they need 
from BIOS for memory and so on?

ron

[Stefan Reinauer]

* Justin Cormack  [050615 20:12]:
> Has anyone looked at what it would take to get Solaris booting under
> Linuxbios on Opteron?
>
> If not I might dig around (there is a modified grub - I think that does
> some of the init work; one suspects that because of its heritage it is
> quite BIOS-unencumbered).

Solaris on x86/amd64 does not contain any open firmware support. So
while using OpenBIOS to boot Solaris might be possible (if they don't
do legacy bios calls), it won't benefit from OpenBIOS' IEEE1275
compliance. This might change with OpenSolaris though--

Stefan

[Justin Cormack]

Stefan Reinauer wrote:
> Justin Cormack  [050615 20:12]:
> > Has anyone looked at what it would take to get Solaris booting under
> > Linuxbios on Opteron?
> >
> > If not I might dig around (there is a modified grub - I think that does
> > some of the init work; one suspects that because of its heritage it is
> > quite BIOS-unencumbered).
>
> Solaris on x86/amd64 does not contain any open firmware support. So
> while using OpenBIOS to boot Solaris might be possible (if they don't
> do legacy bios calls), it won't benefit from OpenBIOS' IEEE1275
> compliance. This might change with OpenSolaris though--
>
> Stefan

There are some odd BIOS based interfaces in the x86 code (though at some 
point it just builds a structure that looks like what comes out of the 
Sun PROMS). Probably easiest to just port the Open Firmware support from 
the Sparc part of the tree as its all there though.

justin

[Stefan Reinauer]

* Justin Cormack  [050616 13:25]:
> > Solaris on x86/amd64 does not contain any open firmware support. So
> > while using OpenBIOS to boot Solaris might be possible (if they don't
> > do legacy bios calls), it won't benefit from OpenBIOS' IEEE1275
> > compliance. This might change with OpenSolaris though--
>
> There are some odd BIOS based interfaces in the x86 code (though at some 
> point it just builds a structure that looks like what comes out of the 
> Sun PROMS). Probably easiest to just port the Open Firmware support from 
> the Sparc part of the tree as its all there though.

definitely the cleanest solution. Volunteers? I can help on the OpenBIOS
side..

Stefan

[Justin Cormack]

On 6 Aug 2005, at 13:10, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
> Justin Cormack  [050616 13:25]:
> > > Solaris on x86/amd64 does not contain any open firmware support. So
> > > while using OpenBIOS to boot Solaris might be possible (if they  
> > > don't
> > > do legacy bios calls), it won't benefit from OpenBIOS' IEEE1275
> > > compliance. This might change with OpenSolaris though--
> >
> > There are some odd BIOS based interfaces in the x86 code (though  
> > at some
> > point it just builds a structure that looks like what comes out of  
> > the
> > Sun PROMS). Probably easiest to just port the Open Firmware  
> > support from
> > the Sparc part of the tree as its all there though.
>
> definitely the cleanest solution. Volunteers? I can help on the  
> OpenBIOS
> side..

Hopefully will have some time in a few weeks to look at it, and have  
some
spare old Opteron boards I could use. Will try to get them up and  
running
Linuxbios and booting Linux as a first step shortly.

Justin