Hi,
a quick question, is LinuxBIOS able to boot any of the BSD-flavours? I'm especially interested in FreeBSD.
/Christer
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Christer Weinigel wrote:
a quick question, is LinuxBIOS able to boot any of the BSD-flavours?
I wish. I can't get interest from any of the BSD community.
ron
I think the problem might be the name of the project. Many BSD users, especially freeBSD, wouldn't get caught dead running anything linux if they can help it. Silly elitist attitude, much like the elitist attitude some linux users take towards windows users. Now if it was still named freeBIOS, they may be more cooperative.
GO
On Tuesday 08 October 2002 12:25, Ronald G Minnich wrote:
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Christer Weinigel wrote:
a quick question, is LinuxBIOS able to boot any of the BSD-flavours?
I wish. I can't get interest from any of the BSD community.
ron
Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, GNUOrder wrote:
I think the problem might be the name of the project. Many BSD users, especially freeBSD, wouldn't get caught dead running anything linux if they can help it. Silly elitist attitude, much like the elitist attitude some linux users take towards windows users. Now if it was still named freeBIOS, they may be more cooperative.
Actually, that was not the issue when I talked to them. The issue was that they didn't want to give up the BIOS calls.
ron
* Ronald G Minnich rminnich@lanl.gov [021011 16:15]:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, GNUOrder wrote:
I think the problem might be the name of the project. Many BSD users, especially freeBSD, wouldn't get caught dead running anything linux if they can help it. Silly elitist attitude, much like the elitist attitude some linux users take towards windows users. Now if it was still named freeBIOS, they may be more cooperative.
Actually, that was not the issue when I talked to them. The issue was that they didn't want to give up the BIOS calls.
Wouldn't some config option be an alternative? Is there a list of the specific bios calls we're talking about
Best regards, Stefan Reinauer
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
Wouldn't some config option be an alternative? Is there a list of the specific bios calls we're talking about
it's all possible, but nobody in the -core has offered to do it, or even offered to take changes. I strongly believe that if somebody did it then they would take the changes, however.
Almost certainly OpenBSD would go for it. Those guys are really open to new ideas.
I understand the issue with the name 'linuxbios', but I'm not ready to drop it -- it is easy for people to parse.
ron
Ronald G Minnich rminnich@lanl.gov writes:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, GNUOrder wrote:
I think the problem might be the name of the project. Many BSD users, especially freeBSD, wouldn't get caught dead running anything linux if they can help it. Silly elitist attitude, much like the elitist attitude some linux users take towards windows users. Now if it was still named freeBIOS, they may be more cooperative.
Actually, that was not the issue when I talked to them. The issue was that they didn't want to give up the BIOS calls.
Was this before or after we had the LinuxBIOS table?
Eric
On 11 Oct 2002, Eric W Biederman wrote:
Was this before or after we had the LinuxBIOS table?
long before, maybe they would reconsider?
ron
Christer Weinigel christer@weinigel.se writes:
Hi,
a quick question, is LinuxBIOS able to boot any of the BSD-flavours? I'm especially interested in FreeBSD.
LinuxBIOS will load etherboot. etherboot has support for FreeBSD.
But I believe the FreeBSD kernel uses vm86 mode and makes x86 BIOS calls which LinuxBIOS does not implement. It should just be a matter of modifying the BSDs to not make x86 BIOS calls and instead read the LinuxBIOS table.
There may be a few integration issues but it should not be too hard to get going.
Eric
On 8 Oct 2002, Eric W Biederman wrote:
But I believe the FreeBSD kernel uses vm86 mode and makes x86 BIOS calls which LinuxBIOS does not implement. It should just be a matter of modifying the BSDs to not make x86 BIOS calls and instead read the LinuxBIOS table.
yup. That's the state of play. I looked at this 2 years ago and talked to some freebsd guys but did not get back any hints of interest. A shame too. I used to always run freebsd clusters ...
ron
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