Hello Could you, please, advise what motherboard I should use with coreboot to support Core i3, i5 or i7 CPU ? And if any of these CPUs is not supported for now, where they will be supported?
As an alternative: do you support Core 2 Duo and with what motheboard ?
Thanks
On 03/11/2011 12:19 PM, Oleg Gvozdev wrote:
Hello Could you, please, advise what motherboard I should use with coreboot to support Core i3, i5 or i7 CPU ?
Yes.
And if any of these CPUs is not supported for now, where they will be supported?
In their momma's gusset.
As an alternative: do you support Core 2 Duo and with what motheboard ?
A little word of advice. Coming and asking us about what hardware to buy from a vendor that is more evil and uncooperative than Satan, is not going to bring you happy respondents. We're getting tired of having to tell people that Intel does not provide the documentation needed to support their hardware.
So, suck it up, and look at AMD's offering instead.
Alex
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:53:50 +0200, "Alex G." mr.nuke.me@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/11/2011 12:19 PM, Oleg Gvozdev wrote:
Hello Could you, please, advise what motherboard I should use with coreboot to support Core i3, i5 or i7 CPU ?
Yes.
And if any of these CPUs is not supported for now, where they will be supported?
In their momma's gusset.
As an alternative: do you support Core 2 Duo and with what motheboard ?
A little word of advice. Coming and asking us about what hardware to buy from a vendor that is more evil and uncooperative than Satan, is not going to bring you happy respondents. We're getting tired of having to tell people that Intel does not provide the documentation needed to support their hardware.
So, suck it up, and look at AMD's offering instead.
Wow!
2011/3/11 Alex G. mr.nuke.me@gmail.com
On 03/11/2011 12:19 PM, Oleg Gvozdev wrote:
Hello Could you, please, advise what motherboard I should use with coreboot to support Core i3, i5 or i7 CPU ?
Yes.
And if any of these CPUs is not supported for now, where they will be supported?
In their momma's gusset.
As an alternative: do you support Core 2 Duo and with what motheboard ?
A little word of advice. Coming and asking us about what hardware to buy from a vendor that is more evil and uncooperative than Satan, is not going to bring you happy respondents. We're getting tired of having to tell people that Intel does not provide the documentation needed to support their hardware.
So, suck it up, and look at AMD's offering instead.
Alex
-- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Thanks,
I look now at Gygabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H and AM3 socket.
And my final questions are the next:
1. Does Coreboot work with Phenom II Thuban CPU ? I want 6-core CPU of Phenom2
2. If it does not, what do you suggest from quadcores Phenom2 AM3 or AM+.. (i wrote your sentence about Satan,but i dont want to spend money on unworking system)
I just need as much powerfull CPU as it can be to use with Coreboot.
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:50:32 +0300, Oleg Gvozdev jktu17@gmail.com wrote:
2011/3/11 Alex G. mr.nuke.me@gmail.com
On 03/11/2011 12:19 PM, Oleg Gvozdev wrote:
Hello Could you, please, advise what motherboard I should use with coreboot
to
support Core i3, i5 or i7 CPU ?
Yes.
And if any of these CPUs is not supported for now, where they will be supported?
In their momma's gusset.
As an alternative: do you support Core 2 Duo and with what motheboard
?
A little word of advice. Coming and asking us about what hardware to buy from a vendor that is more evil and uncooperative than Satan, is not going to bring you happy respondents. We're getting tired of having to tell people that Intel does not provide the documentation needed to support their hardware.
So, suck it up, and look at AMD's offering instead.
Alex
-- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Thanks,
I look now at Gygabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H and AM3 socket.
And my final questions are the next:
- Does Coreboot work with Phenom II Thuban CPU ? I want 6-core CPU of
Phenom2
- If it does not, what do you suggest from quadcores Phenom2 AM3 or
AM+..
(i wrote your sentence about Satan,but i dont want to spend money on unworking system)
I just need as much powerfull CPU as it can be to use with Coreboot.
Did you look here? http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards
On 03/11/2011 01:50 PM, Oleg Gvozdev wrote:
I look now at Gygabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H and AM3 socket.
And this is the board I would have suggested. It's the only officially suppported board with AM3 and DDR3. http://www.coreboot.org/GIGABYTE_GA-MA785GMT-UD2H
The problem with this board is that it comes in several "versions". We've had people having difficulties getting other versions to run, but most of the hard work is done. With a bit of patience at worst, you should be able to get it running.
You could theoretically get any AM3 board and port it; this will be extra work, however.
- Does Coreboot work with Phenom II Thuban CPU ? I want 6-core CPU of
Phenom2
It's supported.
- If it does not, what do you suggest from quadcores Phenom2 AM3 or
AM+.. (i wrote your sentence about Satan,but i dont want to spend money on unworking system)
AM3 six-core is porbably the best bet for anyone wanting to run coreboot on a modern system.
I just need as much powerfull CPU as it can be to use with Coreboot.
Well, there is Socket G34, which is mostly the same silicon as the Phenom II, and it comes in 8 or 12-core variants (and 1, 2 or 4 sockets -- up to 48 cores total) _*_BUT_*_ this will need serious work to get running. Even with AMD's excellent cooperation, this is no easy task. Such a job will turn you into a coreboot developer. ;)
Alex
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 05:49:50PM +0200, Alex G. wrote:
- Does Coreboot work with Phenom II Thuban CPU ? I want 6-core CPU of
Phenom2
It's supported.
I didn't know this had been tested. It's a little difficult for me to keep track of all mail in the list.
http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Chipsets_and_Devices
says [only?] FAM10 revisions B0-B3 are supported.
My Phenom II X4 910e is rev RB_C3 and still doesn't boot (although I no longer think it's the CPU but the southbridge, I can't confirm either until I can boot).
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Phenom_microprocessors#Phenom_serie... all Phenom II X6 would be revision E0 (one could look at more authoritative sources, maybe)
In theory many revisions should work. In practice there are some constants in src/northbridge/amd/amdmct/amddefs.h which allocate one bit in a 32 bit value for each revision. Then these are used to build masks to test whether to apply workarounds for CPU errata or particular initializations (like in src/cpu/amd/model_10xxx/defaults.h). Some revisions (beyond HY_D0, I think), don't fit in these 32 bits. I suspect those revisions may not work, but maybe these revisions might work because they just don't need workarounds, etc. I even sent some patches that would only make sense for revision E and they were committed, but I couldn't test them (I sent them precisely because I thought no revision E CPU had been used with coreboot, so I couldn't break anything that worked before, just hopefully add a small part to support future work).
It might be good to collect a list of tested CPU revisions and maybe any issues found or any tests performed, if the supported chipsets page is out of date for FAM10.
I'm sorry I can't contribute to this list though, until my board boots.
P.S. Whether E0 works or not, there's good documentation for it, so it is fixable.
Oleg Gvozdev wrote:
i dont want to spend money on unworking system
I just need as much powerfull CPU as it can be to use with Coreboot.
If you are willing to spend a bit of time with the source code, and you have programming experience and knowledge of CPUs then I think you'll be successful. As was pointed out, I'm not sure the higher end multicore CPUs have been tested on recent boards, however.
You would help the project and your fellow CPU power needing person by testing with coreboot and worst case spending some time to get things to work.
In general, if what you need is to pay for something that you do not want to touch, then open source is the wrong answer.
If you are looking for a service provider that can create a solution then there are a few of those within the coreboot community as well. Explain a bit more about your requirements and one of them could get in touch, if this is what you seek.
//Peter
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