Hello
As far as I have seen, there are is no coreboot-support for any socket 775 mainboards yet?
Is someone working on that and is it likely that there will be support in the near future?
I'm working in revamp-it in Zurich. ( www.revamp-it.ch ) Together with different other "open source concerned" people we have started the project "freieComputer.ch". Our idea is to offer "free computers", which means computers with pre installed open source software to anyone, who wants to buy a new or second-hand desktop computer or laptop.
Till now we are still using mainboards with BIOS, pre installed by the mainboard manufacturer, but we would be very happy to offer computers with coreboot-BIOS in the future.
As far as I understand, there are already a lot of possibilities for second-hand computers, using older mainboards.
But the choice for new mainboards is very small:
Am I right, that the only mainboard listed as supported by coreboot, I still can get as new is the Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 Board with Socket AM2? (I couldn't find any mainboard supplier, who still offers any of the other AM2 supported mainboards mentioned on the supported mainboards list.)
Which other mainboards or newer chipsets are you currently working on to be implemented in coreboot v3?
Apart from support for OLPC, is there any work in progress to get the BIOS of other ("mainstream") laptops supported by coreboot?
And a last question:
Are there any coreboot developers here in Switzerland, to get in personal contact with them?
Best wishes
Andreas
Andreas Rudin wrote:
Hello
As far as I have seen, there are is no coreboot-support for any socket 775 mainboards yet?
Is someone working on that and is it likely that there will be support in the near future?
I've posted a patch in my mail titled "Intel refactoring and microcode updates" that adds support for socket 775 CPUs, along with their respective microcode updates. Unfortunately, the updates are too large to fit in flash, and with v3's compression support, I've been tempted to just give up and hold off until v3 works (there is also a generic intel option, which supports any intel cpu, but lacks microcode updates, those can be done through the kernel later). I've also been messing around a little with an i945 board, but I won't get seriously working on it until I've wrapped up everything else I've got going.
I'm working in revamp-it in Zurich. ( www.revamp-it.ch ) Together with different other "open source concerned" people we have started the project "freieComputer.ch". Our idea is to offer "free computers", which means computers with pre installed open source software to anyone, who wants to buy a new or second-hand desktop computer or laptop.
Till now we are still using mainboards with BIOS, pre installed by the mainboard manufacturer, but we would be very happy to offer computers with coreboot-BIOS in the future.
As far as I understand, there are already a lot of possibilities for second-hand computers, using older mainboards.
But the choice for new mainboards is very small:
Am I right, that the only mainboard listed as supported by coreboot, I still can get as new is the Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 Board with Socket AM2? (I couldn't find any mainboard supplier, who still offers any of the other AM2 supported mainboards mentioned on the supported mainboards list.)
There are also some embedded boards, PC Engines alix1c for instance, that are still for sale. There's also the Gigabyte 2671gxdx, which should be available soon, and a handful of Asus and MSI boards, just look for the ones with the nvidia mcp55 or via k8t890. I'm working on support for jetway's j7f2 series right now (via c7/cn700), it's just about finished and there should be a fresh patch the next few days.
Which other mainboards or newer chipsets are you currently working on to be implemented in coreboot v3?
v3 isn't ready for production yet. It's coming along well, and the first working target will probably be the aforementioned alix1c.
Apart from support for OLPC, is there any work in progress to get the BIOS of other ("mainstream") laptops supported by coreboot?
Not at this time. Undocumented embedded controllers tend to get in the way.
-Corey
And a last question:
Are there any coreboot developers here in Switzerland, to get in personal contact with them?
Best wishes
Andreas
Corey Osgood wrote:
Andreas Rudin wrote:
Hello
As far as I have seen, there are is no coreboot-support for any socket 775 mainboards yet?
Is someone working on that and is it likely that there will be support in the near future?
I've posted a patch in my mail titled "Intel refactoring and microcode updates" that adds support for socket 775 CPUs, along with their respective microcode updates. Unfortunately, the updates are too large to fit in flash,
512k flash, I meant to say, that's what the 945 board I have supports.
-Corey
Hi Corey
Thanks for your information. It's a fantastic thing you all are doing here and I hope, after having done our first steps with coreboot, we will be able to make some contribution as well.
If any of you happens to come to Zurich, please let me know.
Best wishes
Andreas
revamp-it Rosengartenstr. 1 8037 Zürich
0041 43 960 32 64 skype und wengophone: arevamp www.revamp-it.ch https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndreasRudin
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 08:55:24PM +0100, Andreas Rudin wrote:
It's a fantastic thing you all are doing here and I hope, after having done our first steps with coreboot, we will be able to make some contribution as well.
Thank you, and welcome to the project! :)
//Peter
Hi Andreas,
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 05:32:20AM +0100, Andreas Rudin wrote:
Am I right, that the only mainboard listed as supported by coreboot, I still can get as new is the Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 Board with Socket AM2?
That's possible, I'm not sure about other AM2 boards.
My company is now offering the GA-M57SLI-S4 with the dual-flash-chip modification (an extra 16Mbit == 2Mbyte flash soldered on the board along with a switch to choose between the original 512kb and the new 2Mb) for 160 EUR including 25% VAT (which you would not have to pay if you have a tax id which VIES considers valid) but excluding shipping. I have not been able to set up a web page for orders yet but I'm working on that.
Please let me know if you are interested!
//Peter
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 06:32:42AM +0100, Peter Stuge wrote:
Hi Andreas,
So, this wasn't really meant for the list. I only saw the list address in To just as I hit send. No problem for me, but;
Should we really have a Mail-Followup-To header?
I believe it is what makes my mutt reply command send messages only to the list and never to the original poster - which hasn't happened before. For replying to the list there's an awesome list-reply command.
Is the intent of Mail-Followup-To the same as for Reply-To - to help people with non-list-aware mailers to always send messages to the list? In that case I would like to ask that it is removed, elitist as that may seem.
If instead my mutt config is just all broken please let me know. (But it has worked very well so far.)
Thanks!
//Peter
On 27.01.2008 06:55, Peter Stuge wrote:
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 06:32:42AM +0100, Peter Stuge wrote:
Hi Andreas,
So, this wasn't really meant for the list. I only saw the list address in To just as I hit send. No problem for me, but;
Should we really have a Mail-Followup-To header?
The Mail-Followup-To header appears in all mails from you to the list, in all mails from Ward and in one fourth of the mails from Stefan. The mails I got from you which did not go via the list do not have the header.
I believe it is what makes my mutt reply command send messages only to the list and never to the original poster - which hasn't happened before. For replying to the list there's an awesome list-reply command.
Is the intent of Mail-Followup-To the same as for Reply-To - to help people with non-list-aware mailers to always send messages to the list? In that case I would like to ask that it is removed, elitist as that may seem.
If instead my mutt config is just all broken please let me know. (But it has worked very well so far.)
Unfortunately, it seems that your mailer (or a filter on your side) inserts the Mail-Followup-To header in the mails you receive and in the mails you send... or there is some really strange interaction between you mailer and the list software.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 02:53:49PM +0100, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
Should we really have a Mail-Followup-To header?
The Mail-Followup-To header appears in all mails from you to the list, in all mails from Ward and in one fourth of the mails from Stefan. The mails I got from you which did not go via the list do not have the header.
Indeed.
I believe it is what makes my mutt reply command send messages only to the list and never to the original poster - which hasn't happened before. For replying to the list there's an awesome list-reply command.
Is the intent of Mail-Followup-To the same as for Reply-To - to help people with non-list-aware mailers to always send messages to the list? In that case I would like to ask that it is removed, elitist as that may seem.
If instead my mutt config is just all broken please let me know. (But it has worked very well so far.)
Unfortunately, it seems that your mailer (or a filter on your side) inserts the Mail-Followup-To header in the mails you receive and in the mails you send...
Quite right. Mutt adds it by default for subscribed lists. Good discussion at http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html and it's actually not a bad thing. Also it was not the cause of my mistake.
I noticed there was a Reply-To header (with the list address) in Andreas' message (but not in messages from others) and that's what steered me and mutt off track.
Sorry for the noise.
//Peter
Hi Peter and Carl-Daniel
I have icedove (thunderbird) as mail client, where I have the possibility to answer a mail with the button "reply" "and reply to all".
Answering just with reply will send the message to the original sender instead of the mailinglist, answering with "reply to all" always sets the mailinglist as new recipient, but often also the original sender of the mail.
Therefore it seems that "reply to" is not configured by the administrator of this list in the mailman options.
That's why I have configured icedove for all my mails to this mailinglist to always set the "answer to" to the mailinglist, as I prefer to just click on the "reply to" button, when answering mails to a mailinglist.
If most of you don't like this, I of course could change it.
Best wishes
Andreas
revamp-it Rosengartenstr. 1 8037 Zürich
0041 43 960 32 64 skype und wengophone: arevamp www.revamp-it.ch https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndreasRudin
Peter Stuge schrieb:
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 06:32:42AM +0100, Peter Stuge wrote:
Hi Andreas,
So, this wasn't really meant for the list. I only saw the list address in To just as I hit send. No problem for me, but;
Should we really have a Mail-Followup-To header?
I believe it is what makes my mutt reply command send messages only to the list and never to the original poster - which hasn't happened before. For replying to the list there's an awesome list-reply command.
Is the intent of Mail-Followup-To the same as for Reply-To - to help people with non-list-aware mailers to always send messages to the list? In that case I would like to ask that it is removed, elitist as that may seem.
If instead my mutt config is just all broken please let me know. (But it has worked very well so far.)
Thanks!
//Peter
Hi Andreas,
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 08:04:53PM +0100, Andreas Rudin wrote:
I have icedove (thunderbird) as mail client, where I have the possibility to answer a mail with the button "reply" "and reply to all".
Oh! Then have a look at this: http://alumnit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension
Therefore it seems that "reply to" is not configured by the administrator of this list in the mailman options.
Right - and it shouldn't be IMO.
That's why I have configured icedove for all my mails to this mailinglist to always set the "answer to" to the mailinglist, as I prefer to just click on the "reply to" button, when answering mails to a mailinglist.
I understand. It is unfortunate that the reply to list functionality has been missing from Thunderbird for so long. It's really helpful.
If most of you don't like this, I of course could change it.
There is the technical aspect (that reply-to is intended to solve a different problem) and it is even considered harmful when inserted by mailing lists; http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html but if you want to keep it I will remember to navigate around it.
Personally, I would certainly appreciate if you (and others) did not add a reply-to header with the list address however.
Plus, it doesn't really benefit _you_ unless you reply to your own messages which I'm sure does happen now and then just like it does for me, but it is probably not as common as replying to messages from others. :)
Thanks for being so receptive in this matter!
//Peter
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