On Fri 11/01/13 18:18 , ron minnich rminnich@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote:
get an ARM-based laptop and help us with the ongoing ARM port of coreboot. A samsung ARM chromebook or EFIKA might be nice.
Porting coreboot should be nice, but AFAIK they already come with free firmware (uboot).
I think you're missing the point. OP asked about coreboot. Helping us on ARM is one answer.
Yes it is one answer, I didn't mean to say it wasn't. Maybe I got lost in the thread somewhere. The original thread was about secure boot and boot restrictions, and the interest in coreboot was as help in it, so other free software solutions like u-boot might also be helpful. I'm not saying coreboot can't or shouldn't be ported to ARM or that it isn't important or anything. I welcome it.
Have you done a pull lately on the repo? You might be surprised at the two new google mainboards in there.
I know. I blame it partially on the PC architecture,
I don't blame *any* of it on the PC architecture. Hardware is hard. Period.
Hardware design is mostly logic,
no, the *easy* part is mostly logic.
There's some physical considerations,
which drive everything else.
Whatever. You know better than me. I don't think we're saying so different things.
I've often thought it would be very nice if "we" (who?) could pick a
very few
computer models each year and try to concentrate effort on those in
order
to have free implementation for both coreboot and all drivers.
You lost me here. I listed a set of things the OP could work on which already have a lot of support but need some help. I just did what you said -- I picked the models. So what's the problem?
There's no problem. I was just trying to explain why the way you and others do it is the way it works instead of a kickstarter for the perfect Ubuntu+Coreboot laptop. I was starting from that Ubuntu Laptop page where lots of people with good intentions hope to just pool buying power and have a laptop developed for them but can't even agree in specs.So instead of development being lead by either vendors paying for coreboot development to ship in their products or developers working on what interests them one could dream of some group buy and concentrated effort to have very good support very soon or something. I was being sympathethic because it is a nice thought, even if I know it's just wishful thinking. But I must have been very bad at explaining and it is not worth distracting people here any more.
Never mind.
our words obscured our agreement :-)
it happens :-)
ron
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