Re: [coreboot] [v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[Peter Stuge]

[e-mail] wrote:
> bool "S1850"

Is this a PowerEdge S1850 ?

//Peter

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[ron minnich]

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Peter Stuge  wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > bool "S1850"
>
> Is this a PowerEdge S1850 ?

yes.

ron

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[Uwe Hermann]

On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 08:41:01PM -0700, ron minnich wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Peter Stuge  wrote:
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > bool "S1850"
> >
> > Is this a PowerEdge S1850 ?
>
> yes.

OK, changed to "Dell PowerEdge 1850" (without "S") in the code and in
the wiki, according to this:

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/pe1850/en/index.htm

Why is the port/directory named S1850 instead of 1850 though? Just to
have a letter as first character, or is the board _actually_ called
"S1850"? If so, do you have a more correct vendor website we can link to?

Also, please check
http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards#Motherboards_supported_in_cor...

Are the entries there correct? I.e. Intel Xeon CPUs, Socket 604? Do you
know what kind of chips they use (PLCC or DIP32 or ...) and if it's
Parallel/LPC/FWH/SPI?

Thanks, Uwe.

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[Paul Menzel]

Dear list,

Am Freitag, den 02.10.2009, 14:50 +0200 schrieb Uwe Hermann:

[…]
> OK, changed to "Dell PowerEdge 1850" (without "S") in the code

This was r4709.

[…]

Thanks,

Paul

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[Peter Stuge]

Uwe Hermann wrote:
> Do you know what kind of chips they use (PLCC or DIP32 or ...) and
> if it's Parallel/LPC/FWH/SPI?

Most if not all Dell servers have TSOP flash, I bet it's an Intel FWH
part.

//Peter

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[ron minnich]

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> Why is the port/directory named S1850 instead of 1850 though? Just to
> have a letter as first character, or is the board _actually_ called
> "S1850"? If so, do you have a more correct vendor website we can link to?

It say s1850 on the front I think.

I'll try to find the other info.

ron

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[Peter Stuge]

ron minnich wrote:
> > Why is the port/directory named S1850 instead of 1850 though? Just to
> > have a letter as first character, or is the board _actually_ called
> > "S1850"? If so, do you have a more correct vendor website we can link to?
>
> It say s1850 on the front I think.

This one?

http://gtk.no/images/bim/server/bim2.jpg

It could simply be that the board name can't be all numbers. I don't
know if we actually have that restriction?

//Peter

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[ron minnich]

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Peter Stuge  wrote:
> This one?
>
> http://gtk.no/images/bim/server/bim2.jpg

not that one. Interesting.
> It could simply be that the board name can't be all numbers. I don't
> know if we actually have that restriction?

since we generate identifiers from the names, it's always a danger,
and might have been an issue in v1. In any case I've gotten into the
habit.

ron

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[Stefan Reinauer]

Peter Stuge wrote:
> ron minnich wrote:
> > > Why is the port/directory named S1850 instead of 1850 though? Just to
> > > have a letter as first character, or is the board _actually_ called
> > > "S1850"? If so, do you have a more correct vendor website we can link to?
> >
> > It say s1850 on the front I think.
>
> This one?
>
> http://gtk.no/images/bim/server/bim2.jpg
>
> It could simply be that the board name can't be all numbers. I don't
> know if we actually have that restriction?

what about renaming it to pe1850?

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[Uwe Hermann]

On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 05:50:22PM +0200, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
> > This one?
> >
> > http://gtk.no/images/bim/server/bim2.jpg
> >
> > It could simply be that the board name can't be all numbers. I don't
> > know if we actually have that restriction?
>
> what about renaming it to pe1850?

Or poweredge_1850 if we're going to rename, so dirnames match the actual
board name.

Uwe.

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[Peter Stuge]

Uwe Hermann wrote:
> > what about renaming it to pe1850?
>
> Or poweredge_1850 if we're going to rename, so dirnames match the
> actual board name.

pe is a quite familiar abbreviation for Dell servers, I'd prefer
that. But Ron said it's not the same machine as on the picture -
we should find out what's going on there before changing the name..

And maybe the mainboard actually does have a name/code, PE is the
server product, I don't know if Dell usually name their boards
independently. I don't think so.

//Peter

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[ron minnich]

actually it's all meaningless in a sense. We have ten 1850s that have
utterly different motherboards than the other 128. They can't even
properly netboot as the other 128 do. They all look the same outside.

Vendor names on the outside tell you nothing about the inside.

ron

[v2] r4707 - in trunk/coreboot-v2: src/mainboard/dell/s1850 targets

[Peter Stuge]

ron minnich wrote:
> actually it's all meaningless in a sense. We have ten 1850s that
> have utterly different motherboards than the other 128. They can't
> even properly netboot as the other 128 do. They all look the same
> outside.

Ok, then it would be nice to find out more about the actual boards
inside. Thinking of this I remember one customer getting some systems
with different onboard NICs, although it was the very same server
model.
> Vendor names on the outside tell you nothing about the inside.

As always, very true.

//Peter