[LinuxBIOS] List of supported mainboards in the wiki

[Uwe Hermann]

Hi,

I've reworked the list of supported mainboards in the wiki quite a bit
recently. The most notable change is that the boards are now sorted into
categories.

http://linuxbios.org/Supported_Motherboards

For now we have these categories:

* Desktops / Workstations
  * Servers
  * Laptops
  * Embedded / SBC / PC/104
  * Mini-ITX
  * Set-top-boxes / Thin clients
  * Devel/Eval Boards
  * Miscellaneous

Please have a look at all the mainbaords and let me know whether they're
in the correct category, and/or if we need more categories etc.

(the distinction between "desktop" and "server" is often quite subjective,
thus I used whatever the vendor used; if the board is marked as
"server solution" or such it goes into the server categrory)

Please also check the "Status" fields, some are still marked "?" and we
should mark them either as "OK" or "Broken/WIP"...

Thanks, Uwe.

[Thomas Ekstrand]

2007/4/18, Uwe Hermann :
> Hi,
>
> I've reworked the list of supported mainboards in the wiki quite a bit
> recently. The most notable change is that the boards are now sorted into
> categories.
>
> http://linuxbios.org/Supported_Motherboards
>
> For now we have these categories:
> Desktops / Workstations
> Servers
> Laptops
> Embedded / SBC / PC/104
> Mini-ITX
> Set-top-boxes / Thin clients
> Devel/Eval Boards
> Miscellaneous
>
> Please have a look at all the mainbaords and let me know whether they're
> in the correct category, and/or if we need more categories etc.
>
> (the distinction between "desktop" and "server" is often quite subjective,
> thus I used whatever the vendor used; if the board is marked as
> "server solution" or such it goes into the server categrory)
>
> Please also check the "Status" fields, some are still marked "?" and we
> should mark them either as "OK" or "Broken/WIP"...
> Thanks, Uwe.
>
> http://www.hermann-uwe.de  | http://www.holsham-traders.de
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Hi!
The list looks great!
Just one question:
I have a plain epia I'd like to get working with LinuxBIOS, am I bound
to v1 or has v2 worked on epia at some point? It says broken in the
list but not at which release it broke...

Thanks
/Thomas

[Uwe Hermann]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 06:25:35PM +0200, Thomas Ekstrand wrote:
> I have a plain epia I'd like to get working with LinuxBIOS, am I bound
> to v1 or has v2 worked on epia at some point? It says broken in the
> list but not at which release it broke...

I don't know, sorry. Someone who owns an epia must answer this question.

Uwe.

[Myles Watson]

My two bits:

It looks good, thanks.
> (the distinction between "desktop" and "server" is often quite subjective,
> thus I used whatever the vendor used; if the board is marked as
> "server solution" or such it goes into the server category)

1. I would vote to combine desktop/workstation/server because of this
fuzziness. It doesn't make the list too much longer, and it stops you from
having to check both places.  The Tyan boards especially seem randomly
placed.

2. These boards seemed funny to me (Yellow OK or Yellow ...)

DIGITAL-LOGIC  MSM586SEG AMD Élan™SC520
VIA  EPIA-M  VIA VT8623  VIA VT8235  VIA VT1211  VIA C3™, VIA EDEN™
TeleVideo  TC7020  AMD GX1  AMD  CS5530(A)  NSC PC97317

Myles

[Uwe Hermann]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 10:50:28AM -0600, Myles Watson wrote:
> > (the distinction between "desktop" and "server" is often quite subjective,
> > thus I used whatever the vendor used; if the board is marked as
> > "server solution" or such it goes into the server category)
> I would vote to combine desktop/workstation/server because of this
>
> fuzziness. It doesn't make the list too much longer, and it stops you from
> having to check both places.

I don't want to do that. There have been many requests and questions
about desktop-style mainbaords which are supported in LinuxBIOS, thus
it's a good thing to have a "Desktop" section (even if it's a bit fuzzy).
> The Tyan boards especially seem randomly placed.

Yep, but they aren't. Those are the boards which are marked as
"workstation solution" on tyan.com.
> These boards seemed funny to me (Yellow OK or Yellow ...)
>
> DIGITAL-LOGIC  MSM586SEG
> VIA  EPIA-M

I don't know the extact status of these two. Who has more information?
> TeleVideo  TC7020

This is yellow with a footnote eplaining the known issues/problems of
the board. Maybe we should change "OK" to "Mostly OK" or something
similar (but shorter)?
That's the intention of the yellow color -- it works mostly, but some
smaller issues remain.

Uwe.

[Ward Vandewege]

Hi Uwe,

On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 05:39:03PM +0200, Uwe Hermann wrote:
> I've reworked the list of supported mainboards in the wiki quite a bit
> recently. The most notable change is that the boards are now sorted into
> categories.
>
> http://linuxbios.org/Supported_Motherboards
>
> For now we have these categories:
> Desktops / Workstations
> Servers
> Laptops
> Embedded / SBC / PC/104
> Mini-ITX
> Set-top-boxes / Thin clients
> Devel/Eval Boards
> Miscellaneous
>
> Please have a look at all the mainbaords and let me know whether they're
> in the correct category, and/or if we need more categories etc.

This is great. Organizing the boards like that is very helpful I think,
particularly for new users.
> (the distinction between "desktop" and "server" is often quite subjective,
> thus I used whatever the vendor used; if the board is marked as
> "server solution" or such it goes into the server categrory)

Yeah - I guess that distinction is debatable for some of these boards. But as
a criterion that's a pretty good choice.
> Please also check the "Status" fields, some are still marked "?" and we
> should mark them either as "OK" or "Broken/WIP"...

I have a more general question about the status field. When do we consider a
board 'OK' (motherboard is fully supported)? For instance; the Tyan S2881 and
S2882 are listed as 'OK' even though there is no ACPI support, which means
that fan control doesn't work (at least last time I checked).

Thanks,
Ward.

[Uwe Hermann]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 03:42:08PM -0400, Ward Vandewege wrote:
> > Please also check the "Status" fields, some are still marked "?" and we
> > should mark them either as "OK" or "Broken/WIP"...
>
> I have a more general question about the status field. When do we consider a
> board 'OK' (motherboard is fully supported)?

Yeah, this is debatable, too, but I think we can mark boards where
almost everything works as "OK", even if some smaller issues remain.
If there are bigger issues we should mark it "OK" (but yellow instead of
green), and add a footnote explaining the problems.
> For instance; the Tyan S2881 and
> S2882 are listed as 'OK' even though there is no ACPI support, which means
> that fan control doesn't work (at least last time I checked).

Thanks, I added the ACPI info as footnote.

Uwe.

[Indrek Kruusa]

Ühel kenal päeval (kolmapäev 18 aprill 2007 6:39 pm) kirjutas Uwe Hermann:
> Hi,
>
> I've reworked the list of supported mainboards in the wiki quite a bit
> recently. The most notable change is that the boards are now sorted into
> categories.

hi,

ArtecGroup dbe61 should be under Thin Clients.

thanks,
Indrek

[Uwe Hermann]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 10:15:22AM +0300, Indrek Kruusa wrote:
> Ühel kenal päeval (kolmapäev 18 aprill 2007 6:39 pm) kirjutas Uwe Hermann:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've reworked the list of supported mainboards in the wiki quite a bit
> > recently. The most notable change is that the boards are now sorted into
> > categories.
>
> hi,
>
> ArtecGroup dbe61 should be under Thin Clients.

Fixed, thanks!

I also added the Linutop device as supported (as I understand it they
use the unmodified dbe61 code?). If you have more information on the
hardware (CPU etc), please let us know...

Uwe.

[Uwe Hermann]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 05:39:03PM +0200, Uwe Hermann wrote:
> Please also check the "Status" fields, some are still marked "?" and we
> should mark them either as "OK" or "Broken/WIP"...

For the record:

These boards still have a "?" status:

Intel 	 	Jarrell (SE7520JR2)
IWILL 	 	DK8S2
IWILL 	 	DK8X
Supermicro 	X6DAi-G
Supermicro 	X6DHE-G
Supermicro 	X6DHE-G2
Supermicro 	X6DHR-iG
Supermicro 	X6DHR-iG2
AMD		Rumba
EagleLion 	5BCM
Total Impact 	briQ
Intel 	 	XE7501devkit

If anybody has more information on their status, please let us know (or
fix the wiki directly).

Thanks, Uwe.

[Esben Stien]

Uwe Hermann  writes:
> I've reworked the list of supported mainboards

How about this one?:

Thunder n4250QE (S4985)

http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=271

[Uwe Hermann]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 01:20:22AM +0200, Esben Stien wrote:
> > I've reworked the list of supported mainboards
>
> How about this one?:
>
> Thunder n4250QE (S4985)
>
> http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=271

I don't understand. What's your exact question?

The board is not supported in LinuxBIOS, yet.

Uwe.

[Esben Stien]

Uwe Hermann  writes:
> The board is not supported in LinuxBIOS, yet.

Right. Thank you.