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[ron minnich]

from just now:
billybob2 writes "VIA has released a 113,800 line open source graphics
driver with full mode-setting support for CRT, LCD, and DVI devices
along with 2D, X-Video, and cursor acceleration. Harald Welte, VIA's
open source representative, states that the next step is to add 3D
(see preview), TV-out, and hardware codec support while integrating
this work with existing open source projects. VIA has pre-installed
Linux on a significant portion of the company's latest products,
including the EVEREX gPC2, 15.4" gBook, and CloudBook. It has also
helped port the open source CoreBoot BIOS (previously LinuxBIOS) to
several of its motherboards." VIA seems to be making good on the
promise of its open source initiative announced last April.

Neat stuff.

ron

[Paul Menzel]

Dear list,

Am Sonntag, den 31.08.2008, 23:56 -0700 schrieb ron minnich:
> from just now:
> billybob2 writes

[…]
> It has also
> helped port the open source CoreBoot BIOS (previously LinuxBIOS) to
> several of its motherboards."

Does anyone know about which boards they are talking? And have the
developers of coreboot experienced any improvement in cooperation?

Thanks,

Paul

[bari]

Paul Menzel wrote:
> Does anyone know about which boards they are talking? And have the
> developers of coreboot experienced any improvement in cooperation?

VIA gave us V2 CAR for C7.

VIA fixed raminit for the CN700 so we can now support all the C7 + CN700 
+ vt8237 boards (about 30- 40 currently in production) in V2 and move 
them into V3.

VIA helped support the vt8237s and KT890 for the a8v-e_se and m2v-mx_se.

VIA posted programming guides for CX700M/VX700 and VX800 
http://linux.via.com.tw/support/downloadFiles.action

-Bari

[Paul Menzel]

Dear list,

Am Montag, den 01.09.2008, 09:09 -0500 schrieb bari:
> Paul Menzel wrote:
> > Does anyone know about which boards they are talking? And have the
> > developers of coreboot experienced any improvement in cooperation?
>
> VIA gave us V2 CAR for C7.
>
> VIA fixed raminit for the CN700 so we can now support all the C7 + CN700
> vt8237 boards (about 30- 40 currently in production) in V2 and move
>
> them into V3.
>
> VIA helped support the vt8237s and KT890 for the a8v-e_se and m2v-mx_se.
>
> VIA posted programming guides for CX700M/VX700 and VX800 
> http://linux.via.com.tw/support/downloadFiles.action

Thanks Bari for this overview. I must have overlooked this on the
mailinglist, since when I subscribed around a year ago.

Thanks,

Paul

[ron minnich]

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 7:09 AM, bari  wrote:
> Paul Menzel wrote:
> > Does anyone know about which boards they are talking? And have the
> > developers of coreboot experienced any improvement in cooperation?
>
> VIA gave us V2 CAR for C7.
>
> VIA fixed raminit for the CN700 so we can now support all the C7 + CN700 +
> vt8237 boards (about 30- 40 currently in production) in V2 and move them
> into V3.
>
> VIA helped support the vt8237s and KT890 for the a8v-e_se and m2v-mx_se.
>
> VIA posted programming guides for CX700M/VX700 and VX800
> http://linux.via.com.tw/support/downloadFiles.action

I think when vendors do this type of thing we should make a Big Deal about it.

This support is well known -- how about a "how vendors are helping"
page? We've got amd and via and silicon mechanics already!

thanks

ron

[bari]

ron minnich wrote:
> I think when vendors do this type of thing we should make a Big Deal about it.
>
> This support is well known -- how about a "how vendors are helping"
> page? We've got amd and via and silicon mechanics already!
>
> thanks
>
> ron

Added http://www.coreboot.org/Vendors  to the wiki.

Let the horn blowing begin!

-Bari

[Stefan Reinauer]

bari wrote:
> ron minnich wrote:
> > I think when vendors do this type of thing we should make a Big Deal
> > about it.
> >
> > This support is well known -- how about a "how vendors are helping"
> > page? We've got amd and via and silicon mechanics already!
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > ron
>
> Added http://www.coreboot.org/Vendors  to the wiki.
>
> Let the horn blowing begin!

good stuff. I wonder whether we should put Silicon Mechanics on there,
too. They're not a hardware vendor in our sense; so they might better
fit into the "Products" section.

Opinions?

Stefan

[Stefan Reinauer]

bari wrote:
> Paul Menzel wrote:
> > Does anyone know about which boards they are talking? And have the
> > developers of coreboot experienced any improvement in cooperation?
>
> VIA gave us V2 CAR for C7.
>
> VIA fixed raminit for the CN700 so we can now support all the C7 +
> CN700 + vt8237 boards (about 30- 40 currently in production) in V2 and
> move them into V3.
>
> VIA helped support the vt8237s and KT890 for the a8v-e_se and m2v-mx_se.
>
> VIA posted programming guides for CX700M/VX700 and VX800
> http://linux.via.com.tw/support/downloadFiles.action

We have been working with VIA to get a CX700 port done long before they
opened that documentation. At the moment the port is sleeping, but only
few things have to be fixed before it can be released. Stay tuned.

I want to take the opportunity to thank VIA for their great help. They
started thinking Open Source a long time before they actually hired
Harald Welte! Way to go!

As a comparison: The fact that Intel is hallowed so much for their Open
Source commitment is a joke, when it comes down to Firmware development.
It has been extremely hard to work with them so far. In fact at this
point I would say they do actively avoid working with us for the
funniest of all reasons. I found comments on Slashdot conspiring how the
great Open Source work on Intel forced VIA into action. If only Intel
would be a small tiny bit as cooperative as VIA was, we would see a vast
amount of Intel systems supported in coreboot today.

Public perception is not always the measure of all things.

Best regards,
Stefan