Regarding the FSP-S thread - sorry, but I did not see any derailment. The whole thread - 'Why do we have FSP-S' - is about "why we should have more blobs when we already have enough?" And its understandable that some people got upset while seeing how coreboot is slowly turning from being almost completely open source to the big collection of blobs launching each other. Hopefully this reply would not get me removed...
Best regards, Ivan Ivanov
2018-05-01 19:07 GMT+03:00 ron minnich rminnich@gmail.com:
We've had to remove people from the list before, and I suppose at some point it might have to happen again. Nobody likes this option. Sometimes there is no choice.
I agree that on a technical discussion list there's no place for abusive language. We're all trying to do the best we can in a non-ideal world.
ron
On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 9:03 AM David Hendricks david.hendricks@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all, Recently I've noticed an uptick in threads going off-topic. While some noise should be expected on an open source mailing list, I think it's become very counterproductive in many recent cases. A good example is the FSP-S thread going on where we see clear examples of people interjecting with non-technical diatribes and disrespecting developers, corporate contributors, and coreboot itself in violation of the existing community standards (https://coreboot.org/Code_of_Conduct).
Most of this is perpetrated by a very small handful of individuals who have not contributed anything to the codebase, so I think the current problem could be dealt with easily. It might also be worth adding something about keeping threads on-topic and focused on technology in the Code of Conduct.
Another option would be to have a developer-only mailing list, but I think it's best to try and keep things open to the community at large even if that means ejecting the most disruptive members.
Thoughts?
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