Hello! This is getting monotonous. It seems every time a trac entry is updated, it aquires some blockhead's random example of junk. In this case its #163. Now I realize that everyone does know about them, but I am simply bringing it up so that we can get the matter resolved.
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On 10/2/10 4:15 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
This is getting monotonous. It seems every time a trac entry is updated, it aquires some blockhead's random example of junk. In this case its #163. Now I realize that everyone does know about them, but I am simply bringing it up so that we can get the matter resolved.
Yes, it sucks!
The alternative is to have people complaining they can't post tickets without an (svn) account. For some reason the captcha in trac's spam-filter plugin does not seem to work. If someone knows how to get this combo working, please drop me a note,...
Stefan
Stefan Reinauer wrote:
I am simply bringing it up so that we can get the matter resolved.
Gregg, it is not really so easy to resolve. We do want the bug tracker to be easy to add information to.
Yes, it sucks!
So far I don't think it's too bad, but there will be more of course.
The alternative is to have people complaining they can't post tickets without an (svn) account.
Maybe a Trac account would be sufficient. I'm run other Trac instances with the requirement that an account is created (with email address, so that people will receive ticket updates) and the email address must be verified (random string link in email) before the account can actually use Trac. This works well so far.
Sandia have developed a Trac plugin to allow moderators to process all input to Trac, it looks good, but it seems to fit the best only when the group of moderators is very much homogenous, and when everyone have equal desire to help with moderation. I was hesitant to implement it in other Tracs.
For some reason the captcha in trac's spam-filter plugin does not seem to work. If someone knows how to get this combo working, please drop me a note,...
What's the failure mode? One spam filter plugin has this scoring system where a captcha is only one source of points. Maybe it needs more configuration? Let's take it off-list.
//Peter
I know I am probably going to take crap over this suggestion, but why don't we use something like sourceforge for the ticketing system. It seems like there is a lot of distraction in maintaining the project infrastructure like bug tracker, wiki, etc.
Thanks, wt
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Peter Stuge peter@stuge.se wrote:
Stefan Reinauer wrote:
I am simply bringing it up so that we can get the matter resolved.
Gregg, it is not really so easy to resolve. We do want the bug tracker to be easy to add information to.
Yes, it sucks!
So far I don't think it's too bad, but there will be more of course.
The alternative is to have people complaining they can't post tickets without an (svn) account.
Maybe a Trac account would be sufficient. I'm run other Trac instances with the requirement that an account is created (with email address, so that people will receive ticket updates) and the email address must be verified (random string link in email) before the account can actually use Trac. This works well so far.
Sandia have developed a Trac plugin to allow moderators to process all input to Trac, it looks good, but it seems to fit the best only when the group of moderators is very much homogenous, and when everyone have equal desire to help with moderation. I was hesitant to implement it in other Tracs.
For some reason the captcha in trac's spam-filter plugin does not seem to work. If someone knows how to get this combo working, please drop me a note,...
What's the failure mode? One spam filter plugin has this scoring system where a captcha is only one source of points. Maybe it needs more configuration? Let's take it off-list.
//Peter
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On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Warren Turkal wt@penguintechs.org wrote:
I know I am probably going to take crap over this suggestion, but why don't we use something like sourceforge for the ticketing system. It seems like there is a lot of distraction in maintaining the project infrastructure like bug tracker, wiki, etc.
no crap at all, just that we've come full circle :-)
we started out on sourceforge in 1999 but it just did no do the job ...
ron
Warren Turkal wrote:
why don't we use something like sourceforge
Read their EULA carefully. They're a US company and it is full of things I for one don't like so much. It's my experience that while there is a bit of overhead to self-hosting, it's really valuable for at least someone in the community to have systems access to the hosted services.
//Peter
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Peter Stuge peter@stuge.se wrote:
Warren Turkal wrote:
why don't we use something like sourceforge
Read their EULA carefully. They're a US company and it is full of things I for one don't like so much. It's my experience that while there is a bit of overhead to self-hosting, it's really valuable for at least someone in the community to have systems access to the hosted services.
//Peter
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Hello! Peter is right. I did read their EULA about the same time I discovered the ancestor to Coreboot, and created an identity over there. It has more fallacies then the ones that Microsoft insists we assert the importance of before using their products.
And in an earlier one, Ron confirms that we did indeed use it, at the same time period. Nothing done there but gather the electronic equivalent of dust.
Now let's see what does happen concerning Trac. I freely admit cleaning it up must be better then having to reset the Wiki every day. Is that happening folks?!?!? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 02.10.2010 21:25, Warren Turkal wrote:
I know I am probably going to take crap over this suggestion, but why don't we use something like sourceforge for the ticketing system. It seems like there is a lot of distraction in maintaining the project infrastructure like bug tracker, wiki, etc.
I have used sourceforge for a project before, and believe me, it sucks. Big time. Maybe they fixed some stuff, but the mailing list archives at sourceforge are still the worst I have ever seen. Even running mbox files through "more" has better usability. svn and cvs at sourceforge are usually unreachable or extremely slow, the download interface is clumsy, and thus the only remaining service would be a ticket system. No idea if that can be integrated with coreboot.org, and if that integration would be less work than fixing the captcha issues with spam in trac (or moderating all trac comments which contain hyperlinks).
Regards, Carl-Daniel
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