Hi all, Are there routers which are using linuxbios? I looked at the products page as well as vendors lists & went to the sites but failed to find anything.
In case, there is an device like that would it be possible say to use such a device & send diagnostic messages using telnet or something to see how its holding? or ask what functionality it has in some manner & it replies? I'm hoping that both the answers are in the positive. If so, are there specific vendors which are selling this in consumer devices. For e.g. I have the D-Link 502-T which has a busybox (0.6.1 pre) which uses ash. Although I'm not much of a geek but have been able to move around a bit & see that's its pretty similar to how linux is . For e.g. http://pastebin.ca/487045 is the output from the ifconfig of the router I have. Looking forward for suggestions, comments, flames to the same.
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 12:33:44PM +0530, shirish wrote:
Are there routers which are using linuxbios?
Not that we know of.
D-Link 502-T its pretty similar to how linux is .
Many consumer network appliances are embedded Linux systems.
They usually run on an ARM CPU and there has not been much work on LinuxBIOS for ARM.
One reason could be that ARM CPUs already has at least one open source boot loader. Maybe it already does what everyone wants, and does it fast.
ARM systems also tend to be much simpler than the "PCs" that LinuxBIOS runs on.
//Peter
Ühel kenal päeval (esmaspäev 14 mai 2007 10:03 am) kirjutas shirish:
Hi all, Are there routers which are using linuxbios? I looked at the products page as well as vendors lists & went to the sites but failed to find anything.
You may find something by googling routerboard+linuxbios
cheers, Indrek
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 05:51:57PM +0300, Indrek Kruusa wrote:
Ühel kenal päeval (esmaspäev 14 mai 2007 10:03 am) kirjutas shirish:
Hi all, Are there routers which are using linuxbios? I looked at the products page as well as vendors lists & went to the sites but failed to find anything.
You may find something by googling routerboard+linuxbios
Nice, I didn't know about this one. Added to the wiki:
(do you know whether it's used in _all_ Routerboards or only in the 200 series?)
Uwe.
Ühel kenal päeval (kolmapäev 16 mai 2007 9:54 am) kirjutas Uwe Hermann:
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 05:51:57PM +0300, Indrek Kruusa wrote:
Ühel kenal päeval (esmaspäev 14 mai 2007 10:03 am) kirjutas shirish:
Hi all, Are there routers which are using linuxbios? I looked at the products page as well as vendors lists & went to the sites but failed to find anything.
You may find something by googling routerboard+linuxbios
Nice, I didn't know about this one. Added to the wiki:
(do you know whether it's used in _all_ Routerboards or only in the 200 series?)
No, I don't but only 200 series seems to have x86 CPU.
Indrek
Hi,
On 14.05.2007 09:03, shirish wrote:
Are there routers which are using linuxbios? I looked at theproducts page as well as vendors lists & went to the sites but failed to find anything.
Extreme Networks offers routers which run linux (MIPS64 architecture). I have no idea what sort of BIOS they use, though. Either way, it seems to be fairly minimal. Oh, and good luck trying to find any source code from them.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
I have been told that there are routers using linuxbios, but that's all I've ever been told.
one interesting thing: the BIOS costs are one reason that x86 has had trouble getting acceptance in the embedded space, i am told (by embedded systems vendors).
LinuxBIOS fixes this problem. Things like EFI make it worse :-)
ron
On Monday 14 May 2007 10:20:10 ron minnich wrote:
one interesting thing: the BIOS costs are one reason that x86 has had trouble getting acceptance in the embedded space, i am told (by embedded systems vendors).
Another problem is that there's no x86 hardware to be accepted, at least in certain segments. For example there's nothing comparable to the Freescale MPC8349, a single chip containing a 500-1000 MIPS CPU, DDR2 controller, PCI bridge, 2 GigE NICs, USB controller, i2c and serial with a power budget of 4 or 5W. Of course this could just be the other side of a chicken-and-egg situation.
The x86 embedded space might be a lot more competitive when Intel finally ships its Tolopai SoC. So let's make sure LinuxBIOS is ready...
--Ed
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