[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Marc Jones]

Meant to send this to the list.
Marc

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [LinuxBIOS] AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2
Date: 	Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:05:47 -0600
From: 	Marc Jones 
To: 	Darmawan Salihun 
References:

Darmawan Salihun wrote:
> Hi all,
>     I've grepped through the source code last night but haven't found 
> code for board that uses this chipset. Is there any support coming 
> down the road? I'm planning to buy a new system for BIOS experiments 
> in the next few days. This chipset is a candidate for me. I want a 
> chipset with onboard video and K8 processor.
>     I choose K8 because the datasheet for the memory controller is 
> readily available. I'm open for any suggestion(s). Basically, I just 
> want a system that can run Vista, support multicore processor and can 
> be used for LinuxBIOS experiments (preferably without soldering stuff 
> needed).
>     Anyway, one further question: hot-flashing can be done on SPI 
> chips as well, right?
>
> Regards,
> Darmawan Salihun
>
> -= Human knowledge belongs to the world =-

Hi Darmawan,
Currently there is no support in LinuxBIOS for any ATI(now AMD) 
chipsets. We do plan to work on this in the next six months but I don't 
have a specific release date.

==
Marc Jones
Senior Firmware Engineer
[phone] Office
mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.amd.com/embeddedprocessors

Marc

[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Corey Osgood]

Marc Jones wrote:
> Meant to send this to the list.
> Marc
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Re: [LinuxBIOS] AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2
> Date: 	Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:05:47 -0600
> From: 	Marc Jones 
> To: 	Darmawan Salihun 
> References:
>
> Darmawan Salihun wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >     I've grepped through the source code last night but haven't found 
> > code for board that uses this chipset. Is there any support coming 
> > down the road? I'm planning to buy a new system for BIOS experiments 
> > in the next few days. This chipset is a candidate for me. I want a 
> > chipset with onboard video and K8 processor.
> >     I choose K8 because the datasheet for the memory controller is 
> > readily available. I'm open for any suggestion(s). Basically, I just 
> > want a system that can run Vista, support multicore processor and can 
> > be used for LinuxBIOS experiments (preferably without soldering stuff 
> > needed).
> >     Anyway, one further question: hot-flashing can be done on SPI 
> > chips as well, right?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Darmawan Salihun
> >
> > -= Human knowledge belongs to the world =-
>
> Hi Darmawan,
> Currently there is no support in LinuxBIOS for any ATI(now AMD) 
> chipsets. We do plan to work on this in the next six months but I don't 
> have a specific release date.
>
> ==
> Marc Jones
> Senior Firmware Engineer
> [phone] Office
> mailto:[e-mail]
> http://www.amd.com/embeddedprocessors
>
> Marc

Great news! Is this only for current and future chipsets, or might we
see some older ones as well? Most interested in the RS480/SB400, btw,
I'd like to mess around with it on my laptop and see what happens.

Thanks,
Corey

[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Marc Jones]

Corey Osgood wrote:
> Marc Jones wrote:
> > Meant to send this to the list.
> > Marc
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: 	Re: [LinuxBIOS] AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2
> > Date: 	Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:05:47 -0600
> > From: 	Marc Jones 
> > To: 	Darmawan Salihun 
> > References:
> >
> > Darmawan Salihun wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >     I've grepped through the source code last night but haven't found 
> > > code for board that uses this chipset. Is there any support coming 
> > > down the road? I'm planning to buy a new system for BIOS experiments 
> > > in the next few days. This chipset is a candidate for me. I want a 
> > > chipset with onboard video and K8 processor.
> > >     I choose K8 because the datasheet for the memory controller is 
> > > readily available. I'm open for any suggestion(s). Basically, I just 
> > > want a system that can run Vista, support multicore processor and can 
> > > be used for LinuxBIOS experiments (preferably without soldering stuff 
> > > needed).
> > >     Anyway, one further question: hot-flashing can be done on SPI 
> > > chips as well, right?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Darmawan Salihun
> > >
> > > -= Human knowledge belongs to the world =-
> >
> > Hi Darmawan,
> > Currently there is no support in LinuxBIOS for any ATI(now AMD) 
> > chipsets. We do plan to work on this in the next six months but I don't 
> > have a specific release date.
> >
> > ==
> > Marc Jones
> > Senior Firmware Engineer
> > [phone] Office
> > mailto:[e-mail]
> > http://www.amd.com/embeddedprocessors
> >
> > Marc
>
> Great news! Is this only for current and future chipsets, or might we
> see some older ones as well? Most interested in the RS480/SB400, btw,
> I'd like to mess around with it on my laptop and see what happens.
>
> Thanks,
> Corey

Corey,

We will focus on current chipsets for now since that is what our 
customers need.

Marc

[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Darmawan Salihun]

Hi Mark,

On 9/10/07, Marc Jones  wrote:
> ...
> Hi Darmawan,
> Currently there is no support in LinuxBIOS for any ATI(now AMD)
> chipsets. We do plan to work on this in the next six months but I don't
> have a specific release date.

Is it possible for us here to obtain the SB600 datasheet? Or is it already
available online, somewhere?

I've bought AMD690G board made by ECS yesterday. I want to play around with
it ;-).

Regards,

Darmawan Salihun
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[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Darmawan Salihun]

Hi all,

On 9/14/07, Darmawan Salihun  wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> On 9/10/07, Marc Jones  wrote:
> > ...
> > Hi Darmawan,
> > Currently there is no support in LinuxBIOS for any ATI(now AMD)
> > chipsets. We do plan to work on this in the next six months but I don't
> > have a specific release date.
>
> Is it possible for us here to obtain the SB600 datasheet? Or is it already
> available online, somewhere?

hmmm, can be downloaded from:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_739_15137,0...

But, I don't know how complete the datasheet over there ;-).

Regards,

Darmawan Salihun
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[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Rasmus Wiman]

"Darmawan Salihun"  skrev:
> hmmm, can be downloaded from:
>
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_739_15137,0...
>
> But, I don't know how complete the datasheet over there ;-).

I had a look at the 690 stuff. It looked like it mainly contained info
about chip pinouts and other stuff you'd want to know if you were to
build a 690 based motherboard. Nothing about registers and that stuff.

/Rasmus

[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Marc Jones]

Rasmus Wiman wrote:
> "Darmawan Salihun"  skrev:
> > hmmm, can be downloaded from:
> >
> > http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_739_15137,0...
> >
> > But, I don't know how complete the datasheet over there ;-).
>
> I had a look at the 690 stuff. It looked like it mainly contained info
> about chip pinouts and other stuff you'd want to know if you were to
> build a 690 based motherboard. Nothing about registers and that stuff.
>
> /Rasmus

The register documents have not been released. As Rasmus pointed out, 
the datasheets that have been released don't contain the registers.
Marc

[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Rasmus Wiman]

"Marc Jones"  wrote:
> The register documents have not been released. As Rasmus pointed out, 
> the datasheets that have been released don't contain the registers.
> Marc

Are you held back by legal stuff or is it just the fact that it's of
ATI origin? Also, is ACPI done by someone else who requires NDA like on
the MCP55 or can one expect functional Powernow in a future 690
Linuxbios?

/Rasmus

[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Marc Jones]

Rasmus Wiman wrote:
> "Marc Jones"  wrote:
> > The register documents have not been released. As Rasmus pointed out, 
> > the datasheets that have been released don't contain the registers.
> > Marc
>
> Are you held back by legal stuff or is it just the fact that it's of
> ATI origin? Also, is ACPI done by someone else who requires NDA like on
> the MCP55 or can one expect functional Powernow in a future 690
> Linuxbios?
>
> /Rasmus

To be honest, I don't know all the details. Being a LB developer I would 
like to see the documents released but I don't know how or when that 
will happen. As for ACPI, when I do get a chance to work on the 690/600, 
there shouldn't be any NDA issues (obviously since I am an AMD 
employee). It is an internal requirement to have PowerNow working with LB.

Marc

[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[bari]

Any news on AMD M690 Coreboot support now that it is part of the AMD 
Embedded Solutions group?

-Bari

Marc Jones wrote:
> Currently there is no support in LinuxBIOS for any ATI(now AMD) 
> chipsets. We do plan to work on this in the next six months but I don't 
> have a specific release date.
>
> ==
> Marc Jones
> Senior Firmware Engineer
> [phone] Office
> mailto:[e-mail]
> http://www.amd.com/embeddedprocessors
>
> Marc

[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Marc Jones]

The 690/600 support should be available in the first half of this year. 
We moved it out a few months to bring in the Barcelona support.
I don't have specific dates but we will announce the code to the list as 
soon as it is available.

Marc

bari wrote:
> Any news on AMD M690 Coreboot support now that it is part of the AMD 
> Embedded Solutions group?
>
> -Bari
>
> Marc Jones wrote:
> > Currently there is no support in LinuxBIOS for any ATI(now AMD) 
> > chipsets. We do plan to work on this in the next six months but I don't 
> > have a specific release date.
> >
> > ==
> > Marc Jones
> > Senior Firmware Engineer
> > [phone] Office
> > mailto:[e-mail]
> > http://www.amd.com/embeddedprocessors
> >
> > Marc

[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Darmawan Salihun]

Hi Marc,

On Jan 22, 2008 1:21 AM, Marc Jones  wrote:
> The 690/600 support should be available in the first half of this year.
> We moved it out a few months to bring in the Barcelona support.
> I don't have specific dates but we will announce the code to the list as
> soon as it is available.

The support would be on coreboot v2?linuxbios v2 right?
> Marc
>
> bari wrote:
> > Any news on AMD M690 Coreboot support now that it is part of the AMD
> > Embedded Solutions group?
> >
> > -Bari
> >
> > Marc Jones wrote:
> > > Currently there is no support in LinuxBIOS for any ATI(now AMD)
> > > chipsets. We do plan to work on this in the next six months but I don't
> > > have a specific release date.
> > >
> > > ==
> > > Marc Jones
> > > Senior Firmware Engineer
> > > [phone] Office
> > > mailto:[e-mail]
> > > http://www.amd.com/embeddedprocessors
> > >
> > > Marc

Regards,

Darmawan

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[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Marc Jones]

Darmawan Salihun wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> On Jan 22, 2008 1:21 AM, Marc Jones  wrote:
> > The 690/600 support should be available in the first half of this year.
> > We moved it out a few months to bring in the Barcelona support.
> > I don't have specific dates but we will announce the code to the list as
> > soon as it is available.
>  The support would be on coreboot v2?linuxbios v2 right?

Yes

Marc

[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Tiago Marques]

Hi Marc.
I'm new to the ML, but was very curious about Barcelona(Phenom) support.
Will we be able to run Phenom CPUs with coreboot on a 4Mbit BIOS?
There were some rumors about only 8Mbit BIOS being supported.
I'm definetely interested since I have two AM2 boards with 4Mbit BIOS chips.
Either way, when will support be available?
Best regards,
                              Tiago Marques

On 1/22/08, Marc Jones  wrote:
> Darmawan Salihun wrote:
> > Hi Marc,
> >
> > On Jan 22, 2008 1:21 AM, Marc Jones  wrote:
> > > The 690/600 support should be available in the first half of this year.
> > > We moved it out a few months to bring in the Barcelona support.
> > > I don't have specific dates but we will announce the code to the list as
> > > soon as it is available.
> >  The support would be on coreboot v2?linuxbios v2 right?
>
> Yes
>
> Marc

[LinuxBIOS] [Fwd: Re: AMD 690G chipset support in LinuxBIOS v2]

[Marc Jones]

Tiago Marques wrote:
> Hi Marc.
> I'm new to the ML, but was very curious about Barcelona(Phenom) support.
> Will we be able to run Phenom CPUs with coreboot on a 4Mbit BIOS?
> There were some rumors about only 8Mbit BIOS being supported.
> I'm definetely interested since I have two AM2 boards with 4Mbit BIOS chips.
> Either way, when will support be available?
> Best regards,
>                               Tiago Marques

Tiago,

The initial support is in coreboot v2. It will just fit in 4Mbit with 
fallback and filo only. maindboard/amd/serengeti_cheetah_fam10 would be 
the place to start. That mainboard is with the 8111/8131 chipset. I am 
looking for people to port to more mainboards/chipsets.

Marc