On 03/16/2017 06:05 AM, qma ster wrote:
As far as I know, AMD does not have any "evil brother" of Intel ME. It only has AMD PSP (Platform Secure Processor) that is built-in to CPU. So, I don't think that cutting a PCH from AMD CPU has any practical value: even if the platform will boot after such a radical change to computer's hardware, you'll lose a lot of essential stuff like USB ports
"only has" huh? PSP and ME do literally the same thing and have the same capabilities, they're a like for like with implementation details being the only difference.
Hello Qmaster, Taiidan,
Thank you for the replies. Last day (March 16th, 2017, Thursday) of Embedded World 2017 I took the trip from Munich to Nuremberg on my own dime (to visit EW 2017), and to speak with some people/companies I supported previously (while being "Intel-er", you name it, the support joke), and I had also the plan to visit AMD booth, so seconds prior I left to Munich HBf, I sent this email, to see what community will tell.
Interesting talks I had with AMD people. I was able to grab attention of the most technical guy on the booth, so we had 30 minutes very productive and lengthy conversation, since I had prepared exact requirements for so far for implementation of the one of the US patents about efficient RAID big data storage.
Since I am NOT (per say) AMD guy (unfortunately, still in my sub-conscious INTEL guy, it is (MUST) changing for the near Future), and I really would like to embark on their technology since/including RyZen, I have learned a lot. And what I have learned is about Naples. It is a true killer (if this is The Truth what they say about it)!
After returning home, that evening, I quickly re-assessed my notes, and immediately was able to find the real video about Naples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN93G6Rg2ek (please, watch it from 1:20)
Naples: True SoC (integrated PCH/Chipset), has 8-channel DDR4 (3.2 GHz clock speed) memory access, able to bring at maximum of 256GB of DDR4 memory, has PCIe X 128 lanes (overall)... And it'll come June/July 2017 time-frame. No signs of price tag, so far!
And, YES, no way to get rid of AMD Chip-set. Too costly for managing Power Management/PMIC and far fetched VRs' regulators, although I see that AMD one is NOT so demanding as INTEL PCH (why it is so, you should ask, whom?)!?
Thank you, Zoran
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:54 AM, Taiidan@gmx.com Taiidan@gmx.com wrote:
On 03/16/2017 06:05 AM, qma ster wrote:
As far as I know, AMD does not have any "evil brother" of Intel ME. It only
has AMD PSP (Platform Secure Processor) that is built-in to CPU. So, I don't think that cutting a PCH from AMD CPU has any practical value: even if the platform will boot after such a radical change to computer's hardware, you'll lose a lot of essential stuff like USB ports
"only has" huh? PSP and ME do literally the same thing and have the same capabilities, they're a like for like with implementation details being the only difference.
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