Hi,
the wiki page about contributors is woefully out of date: http://www.coreboot.org/Contributors
I'm trying to clarify the status of various people on-list before I edit the wiki. How do we handle non-code contributions (hardware donations, booth help etc.)?
Developers
* Ron Minnich http://public.lanl.gov/rminnich/index.html, PI at LANL * Eric Biederman (inactive) * James Hendricks (inactive) * Ollie Lho (inactive) * Jason Potnick (inactive) * Tyson Sawyer (inactive) * Eric Seppanen (inactive) * Dale Webster (inactive) * David Woodhouse (inactive) * Denis Dowling (inactive) * Ronnie Liu (inactive) * Yinghai Lu (?) * Stefan Reinauer http://www.coresystems.de/ * Greg Watson (?) * Richard Smith (inactive) * Mathieu Deschamps (inactive) * Uwe Hermann
And special thanks to ..
* OpenBIOS http://www.openbios.org/, Stefan Reinauer, et al. * FreeBIOS, Johan Rydberg, Jeff Garzik * Acer: Ronnie Liu, Robert CL Lin, Johnson Hsieh, Emily Jiang * Debian Commercial Japan http://debian.co.jp/ * Electronics for Imaging http://www.efi.com/: Manpreet Singh * SiS http://www.sis.com.tw: Ollie Lho, K.M. Liu, et al. (developers of the SiS966 port missing) * VIA: Charlie Chen, Cindy Lee, Mike Fen, Jack Liaw, et al. (who else?) * cwlinux http://www.cwlinux.com: Andrew Ip et. al. * Adam Agnew * Bari Ari (maybe list as developer?) * Sung-Eun Choi * Niklas Ekstrom * David Hendricks * Erik Hendriks * Andrey Mirtchovski * Levi Khatskevitch * Dean Risinger * Suravee Suthikulpanit * Konstantin Zhidkov
Missing from the list are:
- AMD (Marc Jones, Jordan Crouse) - Arne Georg Gleditsch (for LXR and Tyan Fam10h) - Artec Group (Mart Raudsepp, Martin-Eric Racine) - Carl-Daniel Hailfinger - Corey Osgood - Ed Swierk (list him under Arastra?) - Harald Gutmann(?) - Jonathan A. Kollasch - Joseph Smith - Jürgen Beisert - Kevin O'Connor (or does he get his own credit section for SeaBIOS?) - Myles Watson - Patrick Georgi (or does he belong to the OpenBIOS section?) - Peter Stuge - /Reinder/ E.N. de Haan (did I get the name right?) - Ronald Hoogenboom - Rudolf Marek - Segher Boessenkool(?) - Tom Sylla (still active?) - Torsten Duwe - Ward Vandewege
I'm sure I missed a few people and maybe some people on the list are not really developers.
Comments welcome!
Regards, Carl-Daniel
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
the wiki page about contributors is woefully out of date: http://www.coreboot.org/Contributors
that page is unchanged since about 2002!
It would be wonderful to get it updated.
I'm trying to clarify the status of various people on-list before I edit the wiki. How do we handle non-code contributions (hardware donations, booth help etc.)?
Developers
- Ron Minnich http://public.lanl.gov/rminnich/index.html, PI at LANL
Ron Minnich
- Eric Biederman (inactive)
- James Hendricks (inactive)
- Ollie Lho (inactive)
- Jason Potnick (inactive)
- Tyson Sawyer (inactive)
- Eric Seppanen (inactive)
- Dale Webster (inactive)
- David Woodhouse (inactive)
- Denis Dowling (inactive)
- Ronnie Liu (inactive)
- Yinghai Lu (?)
- Stefan Reinauer http://www.coresystems.de/
- Greg Watson (?)
- Richard Smith (inactive)
- Mathieu Deschamps (inactive)
- Uwe Hermann
And special thanks to ..
- OpenBIOS http://www.openbios.org/, Stefan Reinauer, et al.
- FreeBIOS, Johan Rydberg, Jeff Garzik
Johan wrote the code that we based v1 on. Jeff got us that code.
- Acer: Ronnie Liu, Robert CL Lin, Johnson Hsieh, Emily Jiang
Past supporters.
- Debian Commercial Japan http://debian.co.jp/
- Electronics for Imaging http://www.efi.com/: Manpreet Singh
- SiS http://www.sis.com.tw: Ollie Lho, K.M. Liu, et al. (developers of the SiS966 port missing)
- VIA: Charlie Chen, Cindy Lee, Mike Fen, Jack Liaw, et al. (who else?)
That's all I recall. But we need to get the VIA guy who just contributed code into the active lst.
- cwlinux http://www.cwlinux.com: Andrew Ip et. al.
- Adam Agnew
Past developer.
- Bari Ari (maybe list as developer?)
Yep.
- Sung-Eun Choi
- Niklas Ekstrom
- David Hendricks
- Erik Hendriks
- Andrey Mirtchovski
- Levi Khatskevitch
- Dean Risinger
- Suravee Suthikulpanit
- Konstantin Zhidkov
All honorable mention as past developer. Dean Risinger wrote the V1 config tool.
Missing from the list are:
- AMD (Marc Jones, Jordan Crouse)
- Arne Georg Gleditsch (for LXR and Tyan Fam10h)
- Artec Group (Mart Raudsepp, Martin-Eric Racine)
- Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
- Corey Osgood
- Ed Swierk (list him under Arastra?)
- Harald Gutmann(?)
- Jonathan A. Kollasch
- Joseph Smith
- Jürgen Beisert
- Kevin O'Connor (or does he get his own credit section for SeaBIOS?)
- Myles Watson
- Patrick Georgi (or does he belong to the OpenBIOS section?)
- Peter Stuge
- /Reinder/ E.N. de Haan (did I get the name right?)
- Ronald Hoogenboom
- Rudolf Marek
- Segher Boessenkool(?)
- Tom Sylla (still active?)
- Torsten Duwe
- Ward Vandewege
Yep, put them at the top. Yep, Tom Sylla is still very crucial to us.
Previous developers (put the inactives here with a special note of thanks)
On 22.08.2008 02:11, ron minnich wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
the wiki page about contributors is woefully out of date: http://www.coreboot.org/Contributors
that page is unchanged since about 2002!
It would be wonderful to get it updated.
Done.
- VIA: Charlie Chen, Cindy Lee, Mike Fen, Jack Liaw, et al. (who else?)
That's all I recall. But we need to get the VIA guy who just contributed code into the active lst.
Can someone dig up his name?
Current state committed to the wiki. Updates and comments welcome. A few people are in italics because I'm not sure about the section they should be in.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 02:50:01PM +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
On 22.08.2008 02:11, ron minnich wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
the wiki page about contributors is woefully out of date: http://www.coreboot.org/Contributors
that page is unchanged since about 2002!
It would be wonderful to get it updated.
Done.
Should the list of developers be ordered somehow? Right now the ordering seems very arbitrary and not based on any logic that's immediately obvious to me. Would alphabetic ordering be simpler?
Thanks, Ward.
On 22.08.2008 16:22, Ward Vandewege wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 02:50:01PM +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
On 22.08.2008 02:11, ron minnich wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
the wiki page about contributors is woefully out of date: http://www.coreboot.org/Contributors
that page is unchanged since about 2002!
It would be wonderful to get it updated.
Done.
Should the list of developers be ordered somehow? Right now the ordering seems very arbitrary and not based on any logic that's immediately obvious to me. Would alphabetic ordering be simpler?
It's alphabetic ordering by first name. Ron and Stefan are special. I'm open to alternatives.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:27:04 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
On 22.08.2008 16:22, Ward Vandewege wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 02:50:01PM +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
On 22.08.2008 02:11, ron minnich wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
the wiki page about contributors is woefully out of date: http://www.coreboot.org/Contributors
that page is unchanged since about 2002!
It would be wonderful to get it updated.
Done.
Should the list of developers be ordered somehow? Right now the ordering seems very arbitrary and not based on any logic that's immediately
obvious to
me. Would alphabetic ordering be simpler?
It's alphabetic ordering by first name. Ron and Stefan are special. I'm open to alternatives.
I also think we should link everyone to their "User" pages, what do you think?
On 22.08.2008 17:00, Joseph Smith wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:27:04 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
On 22.08.2008 16:22, Ward Vandewege wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 02:50:01PM +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
On 22.08.2008 02:11, ron minnich wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
the wiki page about contributors is woefully out of date: http://www.coreboot.org/Contributors
that page is unchanged since about 2002!
It would be wonderful to get it updated.
Done.
Should the list of developers be ordered somehow? Right now the ordering seems very arbitrary and not based on any logic that's immediately
obvious to me. Would alphabetic ordering be simpler?
It's alphabetic ordering by first name. Ron and Stefan are special. I'm open to alternatives.
I also think we should link everyone to their "User" pages, what do you think?
Good idea. However, only a small subset of developers has a User page in the wiki. Links to empty pages are somewhat suboptimal.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:06:37 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
On 22.08.2008 17:00, Joseph Smith wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:27:04 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
On 22.08.2008 16:22, Ward Vandewege wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 02:50:01PM +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
wrote:
On 22.08.2008 02:11, ron minnich wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
> Hi, > > the wiki page about contributors is woefully out of date: > http://www.coreboot.org/Contributors > > > that page is unchanged since about 2002!
It would be wonderful to get it updated.
Done.
Should the list of developers be ordered somehow? Right now the
ordering
seems very arbitrary and not based on any logic that's immediately
obvious to me. Would alphabetic ordering be simpler?
It's alphabetic ordering by first name. Ron and Stefan are special. I'm open to alternatives.
I also think we should link everyone to their "User" pages, what do you think?
Good idea. However, only a small subset of developers has a User page in the wiki. Links to empty pages are somewhat suboptimal.
Maybe we should encourage everyone to write a little ditty about themselves on their User pages. Even if it is one sentence.
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
Good idea. However, only a small subset of developers has a User page in the wiki. Links to empty pages are somewhat suboptimal.
That's the purpose of the wiki... all non-existing linked pages are shown in red. So people know there's nothing there unless they create it.
I second Joseph; I think everyone with a Wiki account should also have a Users: page describing who we are. We're not an anonymous community.
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:54:27 +0200, Stefan Reinauer stepan@coresystems.de wrote:
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
Good idea. However, only a small subset of developers has a User page in the wiki. Links to empty pages are somewhat suboptimal.
That's the purpose of the wiki... all non-existing linked pages are shown in red. So people know there's nothing there unless they create it.
I second Joseph; I think everyone with a Wiki account should also have a Users: page describing who we are. We're not an anonymous community.
Well I added a link to my User page. I would encourage everyone else to do the same.
On 22.08.2008 21:14, Joseph Smith wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:54:27 +0200, Stefan Reinauer stepan@coresystems.de wrote:
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
Good idea. However, only a small subset of developers has a User page in the wiki. Links to empty pages are somewhat suboptimal.
That's the purpose of the wiki... all non-existing linked pages are shown in red. So people know there's nothing there unless they create it.
I second Joseph; I think everyone with a Wiki account should also have a Users: page describing who we are. We're not an anonymous community.
Well I added a link to my User page. I would encourage everyone else to do the same.
I updated the page with quite a few links to user pages. Feel free to complete my work.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:52:36 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
On 22.08.2008 21:14, Joseph Smith wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:54:27 +0200, Stefan Reinauer
wrote:
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
Good idea. However, only a small subset of developers has a User page
in
the wiki. Links to empty pages are somewhat suboptimal.
That's the purpose of the wiki... all non-existing linked pages are shown in red. So people know there's nothing there unless they create
it.
I second Joseph; I think everyone with a Wiki account should also have
a
Users: page describing who we are. We're not an anonymous community.
Well I added a link to my User page. I would encourage everyone else to
do
the same.
I updated the page with quite a few links to user pages. Feel free to complete my work.
I don't know if I like the "Previous developers" thing. I have seen quite a few emails lately from some of the people on that list. Plus it seems to make them a past thing if you know what I mean. I would rather look twards the future (v3) than the past :-) I propose we are all on the same list (past/present).
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Joseph Smith joe@settoplinux.org wrote:
I don't know if I like the "Previous developers" thing. I have seen quite a few emails lately from some of the people on that list. Plus it seems to make them a past thing if you know what I mean. I would rather look twards the future (v3) than the past :-) I propose we are all on the same list (past/present).
Given that we just got a nice answer from Eric Biederman on a question, I have to agree.
And folks like Tyson Sawyer are still out there, and did a *lot* for us in the early days.
ron p.s. Sung-Eun Choi, among other contributions, designed the old "Tux manhole" logo. She was at LANL and is now at Cray.
On 23.08.2008 06:56, ron minnich wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Joseph Smith joe@settoplinux.org wrote:
I don't know if I like the "Previous developers" thing. I have seen quite a few emails lately from some of the people on that list. Plus it seems to make them a past thing if you know what I mean. I would rather look twards the future (v3) than the past :-) I propose we are all on the same list (past/present).
Given that we just got a nice answer from Eric Biederman on a question, I have to agree.
OK, we can move him to the active section.
And folks like Tyson Sawyer are still out there, and did a *lot* for us in the early days.
What about "People who contributed to earlier versions" instead of "Past developers"? A different approach would be to list the area of code each person contributed to (like "v1 base code foundation" or "v2 config tool").
ron p.s. Sung-Eun Choi, among other contributions, designed the old "Tux manhole" logo. She was at LANL and is now at Cray.
Any chance you can dig up the other logo contributors as well? I'd like to make the wiki page more verbose.
By the way, do we have the SVG (vector graphics) version of the manhole tax somewhere? We should be proud of a logo that served us many years, not erase it from every possible place.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
What about "People who contributed to earlier versions" instead of "Past developers"? A different approach would be to list the area of code each person contributed to (like "v1 base code foundation" or "v2 config tool").
I changed the list now to just contain all people who contributed in a big single list. Lets not go overboard with categorizing.
By the way, do we have the SVG (vector graphics) version of the manhole tax somewhere?
Yes, Peter Stuge and me paid an artist before to do that some time early 2007 to get something to print on posters and T-Shirts.
If I dig it up I'll upload it to the wiki some time.
We should be proud of a logo that served us many years, not erase it from every possible place.
Sure.. Though we should make clear that people are not supposed to use the logo anymore. There were a few incidents where the old logo was used even after the new one was out. (hackontest etc)
Stefan
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