On 02.05.2017 00:44, ron minnich wrote:
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:17 PM Rene Shuster rene.shuster@bcsemail.org wrote:
Yes Puri.sm has been debunked.
I disagree. I've seen the systems. From what I can see, Puri.sm has made a good faith effort to go as far possible *with modern x86 chipsets* toward getting rid of the blobs. They can't get to 100%, but they're trying to get as close as possible.
You sound much like their advertisement.
But that's just not true. They haven't made any effort, they just star- ted it. Even if this effort brings us a machine that ships with coreboot in the future, you seem to forget all the 1st generation machines that were promised an open coreboot + open ME firmware. These were a fraud. People paid for something they didn't get and still nobody is working on it (at least I don't know about any coreboot effort for the Librem 15 gen1, or any 15 or 11 at all).
I guess things are moving towards the right direction. But denying that the first Purism customers were scammed won't help Purism's reputation in the community. (Not to mention that their advertisement still scams a lot.)
Regarding the started effort: AFAIK, it's not (yet) about shipping with coreboot. The current port uses a blob that Purism can't license so the users only get a script to gather blobs and put it together into a blob- boot that they have to install themselves. And even the effort for the next gen doesn't come close to the possible for Intel's x86. Reversing FSP seems pretty easy compared to the ME stuff going on, yet they will ship a fully blobbed coreboot.
Nico
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 3:54 AM Nico Huber nico.huber@secunet.com wrote:
You sound much like their advertisement.
OK, I'm done here. Have a nice project everyone. When people start making statements like this and accusing the project of being corrupt, it's time to stop reading a list.
I'll see you at the meetings, those who come.
ron
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