How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

Discord is proprietary software, why don't we use something free and 
open source?

I would be more than pleased to set up a SIP server or something to that 
effect (I have only 10mbps upload but I know folks who will give me a 
VPS if I want one).
There are plenty of FOSS softphones for every OS and you can also use a 
desktop VoIP phone so it would be more convenient.

[mdn]

I don't have a vps but I can recommend you some good/cheep ones
https://store.vikings.net/libre-hosting-provider-crowdfunding/libre-vps-pre-...
I hope it helps

Le 14/03/2017 05:36, [e-mail] a écrit :
> Discord is proprietary software, why don't we use something free and
> open source?
>
> I would be more than pleased to set up a SIP server or something to that
> effect (I have only 10mbps upload but I know folks who will give me a
> VPS if I want one).
> There are plenty of FOSS softphones for every OS and you can also use a
> desktop VoIP phone so it would be more convenient.

[Iru Cai]

I love Matrix (https://matrix.org) and there are already some public
servers (https://www.hello-matrix.net/public_servers.php), including
matrixim.cc hosted by me.

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:36 PM, [e-mail]  wrote:
> Discord is proprietary software, why don't we use something free and open
> source?
>
> I would be more than pleased to set up a SIP server or something to that
> effect (I have only 10mbps upload but I know folks who will give me a VPS
> if I want one).
> There are plenty of FOSS softphones for every OS and you can also use a
> desktop VoIP phone so it would be more convenient.

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Taiidan,

Am Dienstag, den 14.03.2017, 00:36 -0400 schrieb [e-mail]:
> Discord is proprietary software, why don't we use something free and 
> open source?

1. Discord is not used anymore. Where did you find this outdated
information?

2. As there were a lot of problems with the connection quality with
Discord, a different solution was needed. Currently, BlueJeans is used
[1], which is also proprietary, and it works quite well.

There should also be some information in the minutes [2].
> I would be more than pleased to set up a SIP server or something to that 
> effect (I have only 10mbps upload but I know folks who will give me a 
> VPS if I want one).
> There are plenty of FOSS softphones for every OS and you can also use a 
> desktop VoIP phone so it would be more convenient.

The main requirement is, that it is usable from within a browser, and
all major operating systems and browsers are supported, for example
with WebRTC, so that people aren’t forced to install anything.
BlueJeans also allows to phone in from outside.

If you have a free solution, that works and let’s the community meeting
to work without any issues, *and* you can set it up, I guess we will
find some volunteers to test it out. If that works, a switch can be
discussed.

Thanks,

Paul

[1] https://bluejeans.com/616384323
[2] https://coreboot-meeting.pads.ccc.de/CommunityMeetingTopics?

[mdn]

I just found out that there's ring if anyone wants to try that.
https://ring.cx/

Le 14/03/2017 08:33, Paul Menzel via coreboot a écrit :
> Dear Taiidan,
>
> Am Dienstag, den 14.03.2017, 00:36 -0400 schrieb [e-mail]:
> > Discord is proprietary software, why don't we use something free and 
> > open source?
> Discord is not used anymore. Where did you find this outdated
>
> information?
> As there were a lot of problems with the connection quality with
>
> Discord, a different solution was needed. Currently, BlueJeans is used
> [1], which is also proprietary, and it works quite well.
>
> There should also be some information in the minutes [2].
> > I would be more than pleased to set up a SIP server or something to that 
> > effect (I have only 10mbps upload but I know folks who will give me a 
> > VPS if I want one).
> > There are plenty of FOSS softphones for every OS and you can also use a 
> > desktop VoIP phone so it would be more convenient.
>
> The main requirement is, that it is usable from within a browser, and
> all major operating systems and browsers are supported, for example
> with WebRTC, so that people aren’t forced to install anything.
> BlueJeans also allows to phone in from outside.
>
> If you have a free solution, that works and let’s the community meeting
> to work without any issues, *and* you can set it up, I guess we will
> find some volunteers to test it out. If that works, a switch can be
> discussed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
> [1] https://bluejeans.com/616384323
> [2] https://coreboot-meeting.pads.ccc.de/CommunityMeetingTopics?

On 03/14/2017 03:33 AM, Paul Menzel wrote:
> Dear Taiidan,
>
> Am Dienstag, den 14.03.2017, 00:36 -0400 schrieb [e-mail]:
> > Discord is proprietary software, why don't we use something free and
> > open source?
> Discord is not used anymore. Where did you find this outdated
>
> information?

https://www.coreboot.org/Coreboot_community_meeting
"If you want to install the discord application, feel free to do that."
> As there were a lot of problems with the connection quality with
>
> Discord, a different solution was needed. Currently, BlueJeans is used
> [1], which is also proprietary, and it works quite well.
>
> There should also be some information in the minutes [2].
> > I would be more than pleased to set up a SIP server or something to that
> > effect (I have only 10mbps upload but I know folks who will give me a
> > VPS if I want one).
> > There are plenty of FOSS softphones for every OS and you can also use a
> > desktop VoIP phone so it would be more convenient.
>
> The main requirement is, that it is usable from within a browser, and
> all major operating systems and browsers are supported, for example
> with WebRTC, so that people aren’t forced to install anything.
> BlueJeans also allows to phone in from outside.

I always disable WebRTC to avoid security issues.
> If you have a free solution, that works and let’s the community meeting
> to work without any issues, *and* you can set it up, I guess we will
> find some volunteers to test it out. If that works, a switch can be
> discussed.

I will investigate this further, there are a few foss browser softphones 
so I will test them and get back to everyone.
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
> [1] https://bluejeans.com/616384323
> [2] https://coreboot-meeting.pads.ccc.de/CommunityMeetingTopics?

[Dumitru Ursu]

On 03/15/2017 04:17 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
> I will investigate this further, there are a few foss browser softphones
> so I will test them and get back to everyone.

Try Mumble - it worked without issues for me, but I never tried the web
interface.

https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/3rd_Party_Applications

Dima.

[Patrick Georgi]

2017-03-17 13:17 GMT+01:00 Dumitru Ursu :
> Try Mumble - it worked without issues for me, but I never tried the web
> interface.

We did, it failed us.

Patrick