Re: [coreboot] coreboot community meeting minutes for February 16, 2017

I am dumb so I wasn't aware that there was a community meeting.

The mailinglist should stay, it is the most convenient and supported in 
a variety of viewing methods.
Google groups and reddit both require javascript and they don't support 
easy text mode viewing - both should also not be used for philosophical 
reasons

Reddit admins censor and stealth-edit user posts for kicks and political 
reasons and google loves to harvest peoples information - which is 
entirely their right to do (hardware/bandwidth isn't free - that's how 
they make money) but I don't like being shoehorned in to a service like 
that.
I believe it is only a matter of time before google insist on something 
silly like requiring you to register an account with a phone number for 
using google groups, or demand that you do one of those browser 
fingerprinting mechanical turk captchas.

I do not like freenode IRC as they discriminate against VPN users, even 
as they advertise VPN service on their home page.
I can't understand why, considering you pretty much need a VPN with IRC 
unless you want someone to be able to easily escalate a petty 
disagreement in to being swatted and shot in the head.

On 02/16/2017 06:41 PM, Martin Roth wrote:
> Here are the meeting minutes of today's coreboot community meeting.
> Info about the next meeting (March 2) is at the bottom.
>
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> General coreboot news
> coreboot is working on joining the Software Freedom Conservancy in a
>
> fiscal sponsorship agreement.  Work on this is moving forward, and is
> speeding up.  Several announcements about this should be posted soon.
> Summary by Martin; there will be a blog post
> goal is April, or early May at the very latest
>
> Infrastructure Issues & News
> Updated coverity tools from 8.5.0.5 to 8.7.0
> coreboot's coverity testing is run twice a week by Jenkins
> Tested projects: flashrom, ChromeEC, vboot, Memtest86+
> All other projects are tested daily or when commits happen
> Having problems with merging users in gerrit - We plan to email people
>
> with multiple existing accounts and merge them, but due to gerrit upgrades,
> there are currently issues that we need to figure out before we can make
> progress on this.
> Discussions on the current Mailing list vs switching to a forum
> coreboot is evaluating the idea switching from the mailing list to a
>
> forum package.  A poll on this will be posted shortly.
> Switch to reddit?
> Switch to google groups?
> Look for a forum software package that integrates well with the mailing
>
> list.
> Skepticism was expressed about ditching the mailing list.
> Because jenkins builders build in tmpfs, memory was getting filled, and
>
> builds were failing.  We've taken steps to mitigate this.
> IRC/Mattermost
> Mattermost was set up to help make it easier for people who aren't
>
> familiar with irc
> To reduce spam on irc, only allow registered nicks to talk?
> How big is the spam/abuse problem?
> Deprecate IRC channel?
> Not being planned right now, but in the future?
> Mattermost's default channel doesn't have irc bridged. It sounds like
>
> the latest version of mattermost can add multiple default channels, so we
> can add the irc channel as a default.
>
> Development
> Review of commits
> Martin has been busy and hasn't been able to review things as much
> The best way to get a quick review is to post in chat/irc asking for
>
> reviews on specific patches.
> How do we get more people to review patches?
> Discussion *Add coreboot storage driver*
>
> https://www.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2017-February/thread.html#83218
> How will a decision on this be made?
> If we're going to come to any conclusion, the decision will probably
>
> need to be made by Stefan.
>
> Interesting External news items
> Raptor engineering looking for support in porting openbmc for the ASUS
>
> KGPE-D16 board -
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KGPE-D16-OpenBMC-Effo...
> and https://firmwaresecurity.com/tag/coreboot/
>
> coreboot community meeting related
> Attendance has been spotty.  Is this worthwhile?
> Yes - The community meeting is useful to people
> Ten participants today \o/
> Very few people actually add agenda items.
> Is the time the issue?  Should we try switching time again?
> Announcing it on IRC (about one hour before it begins) helps
> We should announce it on the mailing list, the day before too
> Several people weren't aware that we had bi-weekly coreboot conference
>
> meetings.
>
> ##################################################################
>
> Next meeting is March 2, 2017
> Check the coreboot calendar for the time in your timezone:
> https://www.coreboot.org/calendar.html
>
> Join using the bluejeans web app or the phone bridge:
>      https://bluejeans.com/616384323
>
> Phone bridge call in numbers:  https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers
>      Meeting ID: 616384323
>
> Current agenda & history:
>      https://coreboot-meeting.pads.ccc.de/CommunityMeetingTopics