On 11/17/2013 03:45 PM, ron minnich wrote:
I've tried before with some of those guys They're not going to help because they are not designers. Below a fairly high level, they don't know what's in their systems. Sure, it's a nice shiny skin. But all the real work is done by the ODM.
Then what can be done?
This is a really hard problem. Google is the first company, aside from Linux NetworX, to really commit to a product that uses coreboot. It's been nice to see.
Is Google's plan with the chromebooks to enter the laptop market, or are chromebooks meant to create a new market? It they are meant to enter the laptop market, Google is doing it wrong, and I've never seen Google do things wrong.
It bothers me that so few people know what's inside their computers, but maybe it should not: most people don't know how their cars work either. Maybe the days of really understanding your hardware are gone.
It bothers me that Google is touting golf carts as taking you to work and back. Jokes aside. When 7/6 people have problems with fractions and 1 out of 10 people don't understand binary, how can one expect the majority of people to understand PC hardware?
Alex
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Alex G. mr.nuke.me@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/17/2013 03:45 PM, ron minnich wrote:
I've tried before with some of those guys They're not going to help because they are not designers. Below a fairly high level, they don't know what's in their systems. Sure, it's a nice shiny skin. But all the real work is done by the ODM.
Then what can be done?
Now I get to be the broken record. You buy systems from vendors that have coreboot built in. If you believe in this idea, then you accept that when you put coreboot first, as an early adopter, you don't get everything you want. Or, you don't put coreboot first, and you buy closed systems, and you're then still part of the problem, not part of the solution. Nobody said it would be easy.
If we look back to the earliest days of Linux, you can see that people felt strongly enough about running it that they bought systems that could run Linux even when they were less than ideal. That's where we are today with coreboot laptops. Maybe chromebooks are not all you want, but if you value the openness, you accept the limitations, and work toward the day when they will be all you want.
Is Google's plan with the chromebooks to enter the laptop market, or are chromebooks meant to create a new market?
It's a new kind of market, I believe. What's great about chromebooks, however, is they come with a jailbreak feature designed in and documented which is enabled by holding down three keyboard keys.
ron
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