debugger

[Frank]

Can anyone recommend a debugger for bringing up LinuxBios on an
x86 system...

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[ron minnich]

On Thu, 15 May 2003, Frank wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a debugger for bringing up LinuxBios on an
> x86 system...

what kind of chip? and how much money can you spend?

ron

[Frank]

It depends on what's available...

--- ron minnich  wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2003, Frank wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a debugger for bringing up LinuxBios on
>
> an
> > x86 system...
>
> what kind of chip? and how much money can you spend?
>
> ron
>
> Linuxbios mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

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[ron minnich]

On Thu, 15 May 2003, Frank wrote:
> It depends on what's available...

you can drop anywhere from a few $K to $44K

ron

[Frank]

sis55x SOC x86 based
--- ron minnich  wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2003, Frank wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a debugger for bringing up LinuxBios on
>
> an
> > x86 system...
>
> what kind of chip? and how much money can you spend?
>
> ron

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[ron minnich]

On Thu, 15 May 2003, Frank wrote:
> sis55x SOC x86 based

then the other trick is can you put an ICE in there, some boards make it 
physically impossible. do you have URL with pics?

ron

[Frank]

No and it isn't socketed so I guess that's out...
--- ron minnich  wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2003, Frank wrote:
> > sis55x SOC x86 based
>
> then the other trick is can you put an ICE in there, some
> boards make it 
> physically impossible. do you have URL with pics?
>
> ron

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[ron minnich]

On Thu, 15 May 2003, Frank wrote:
> No and it isn't socketed so I guess that's out...

Richard Smith (I think) can recommend good flash rom emulators that do 
debugging too.

ron

[Frank]

Cool, where are you Richard Smith...
--- ron minnich  wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2003, Frank wrote:
> > No and it isn't socketed so I guess that's out...
>
> Richard Smith (I think) can recommend good flash rom emulators
> that do 
> debugging too.
>
> ron

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[Richard Smith]

Frank wrote:
> Cool, where are you Richard Smith...

AT lunch. :)
> --- ron minnich  wrote:
> > Richard Smith (I think) can recommend good flash rom emulators
> > that do 
> > debugging too.

There are some that do that.  We don't have any though.  I just have 
various rom emulators from techtools (http://www.tech-tools.com/) and if 
I have to go lower I break out the logic scope and just do spot grabs.

Adam Sulmicki uses the following device.

http://www.emutec.com/pjetmain.html

Its pretty neat in the respect that it has a 2 way channel to the 
emulator.  They claim that with software on the target you can get ICE 
functionality without traditional ICE costs.  Oh it has a ethernet 
interface as well so it should be pretty easy to make linux friendly.

I think that it would be totally cool if someone would write a software 
ICE target for the promjet.  You might see how responsive emutech would 
be to that.  That would make the promjet the "must have" piece of 
equipment for bringing up new ports since you would pretty much have a 
bare metal debugging ouput channel.

[Frank]

Cool, I'll look into it...
--- Richard Smith  wrote:
> Frank wrote:
> > Cool, where are you Richard Smith...
>
> AT lunch. :)
> > --- ron minnich  wrote:
> > > Richard Smith (I think) can recommend good flash rom
>
> emulators
> > > that do 
> > > debugging too.
>
> There are some that do that.  We don't have any though.  I
> just have 
> various rom emulators from techtools
> (http://www.tech-tools.com/) and if 
> I have to go lower I break out the logic scope and just do
> spot grabs.
>
> Adam Sulmicki uses the following device.
>
> http://www.emutec.com/pjetmain.html
>
> Its pretty neat in the respect that it has a 2 way channel to
> the 
> emulator.  They claim that with software on the target you can
> get ICE 
> functionality without traditional ICE costs.  Oh it has a
> ethernet 
> interface as well so it should be pretty easy to make linux
> friendly.
>
> I think that it would be totally cool if someone would write a
> software 
> ICE target for the promjet.  You might see how responsive
> emutech would 
> be to that.  That would make the promjet the "must have" piece
> of 
> equipment for bringing up new ports since you would pretty
> much have a 
> bare metal debugging ouput channel.

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[ollie lho]

On Fri, 2003-05-16 at 01:36, Frank wrote:
> No and it isn't socketed so I guess that's out...
> --- ron minnich  wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 May 2003, Frank wrote:
> > > sis55x SOC x86 based
> >
> > then the other trick is can you put an ICE in there, some
> > boards make it 
> > physically impossible. do you have URL with pics?

I don't think sis55x physically support JTAG signal for
any kind of HW ICE. The only way to debug an sis55x here
is via post card.