The Call for Projects has been released. http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/de/community/projects/cfpro.html http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/en/community/projects/cfpro/call-for-projects.h...
Applications must be in before February 21st.
I think we did OK last year, but if we do a bit more careful planning and preparations I think this year can be much better. The organizers expressed interest in a much larger and better advertised workshop-type event where we would help people get coreboot working on their systems.
I am certainly interested in exhibiting coreboot. Anyone else?
//Peter
Quoting Peter Stuge peter@stuge.se:
The Call for Projects has been released. http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/de/community/projects/cfpro.html http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/en/community/projects/cfpro/call-for-projects.h...
Applications must be in before February 21st.
I think we did OK last year, but if we do a bit more careful planning and preparations I think this year can be much better. The organizers expressed interest in a much larger and better advertised workshop-type event where we would help people get coreboot working on their systems.
I am certainly interested in exhibiting coreboot. Anyone else?
//Peter
I would love to help but traveling to Germany is out of the question. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help remotely.
Thanks - Joe
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 07:08:58PM -0500, joe@smittys.pointclark.net wrote:
I am certainly interested in exhibiting coreboot. Anyone else?
I would love to help but traveling to Germany is out of the question. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help remotely.
Last year we had an idea about a competition in the booth, but time did not let it happen.
We showcased a few different CPU boards with LB and had the serial output for each board showing on a screen.
The idea was to let people guess boot times for one board each day as precisely as we could measure, and have a reset button for visitors to press while they were watching the serial output.
I would love to hear other, more fun, competition ideas, but if nothing else surfaces I think I'll try to realize the timer thing this year. :)
//Peter
Peter Stuge wrote:
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 07:08:58PM -0500, joe@smittys.pointclark.net wrote:
I am certainly interested in exhibiting coreboot. Anyone else?
I would love to help but traveling to Germany is out of the question. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help remotely.
Last year we had an idea about a competition in the booth, but time did not let it happen.
We showcased a few different CPU boards with LB and had the serial output for each board showing on a screen.
The idea was to let people guess boot times for one board each day as precisely as we could measure, and have a reset button for visitors to press while they were watching the serial output.
I would love to hear other, more fun, competition ideas, but if nothing else surfaces I think I'll try to realize the timer thing this year. :)
//Peter
A bit off-topic, but this is an idea I've been toying with for a little while now: a web-based interface to see coreboot in action. Somebody visiting the site is presented with an option, to start the "machine" (most likely QEMU) with either coreboot or the factory BIOS. They can then see the "machine" start up, and use busybox or bash to do some basic commands, look at the coreboot log, etc. I'm not a real web developer, so I have very little of an idea what it would take to do this, I just think it would be cool. Comments?
-Corey
Quoting Corey Osgood corey.osgood@gmail.com:
Peter Stuge wrote:
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 07:08:58PM -0500, joe@smittys.pointclark.net wrote:
I am certainly interested in exhibiting coreboot. Anyone else?
I would love to help but traveling to Germany is out of the question. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help remotely.
Last year we had an idea about a competition in the booth, but time did not let it happen.
We showcased a few different CPU boards with LB and had the serial output for each board showing on a screen.
The idea was to let people guess boot times for one board each day as precisely as we could measure, and have a reset button for visitors to press while they were watching the serial output.
I would love to hear other, more fun, competition ideas, but if nothing else surfaces I think I'll try to realize the timer thing this year. :)
//Peter
A bit off-topic, but this is an idea I've been toying with for a little while now: a web-based interface to see coreboot in action. Somebody visiting the site is presented with an option, to start the "machine" (most likely QEMU) with either coreboot or the factory BIOS. They can then see the "machine" start up, and use busybox or bash to do some basic commands, look at the coreboot log, etc. I'm not a real web developer, so I have very little of an idea what it would take to do this, I just think it would be cool. Comments?
-Corey
That's a pretty cool idea Corey. I am pretty fluent in php / html. I could see something like that working, although I think you would have to account for the overhead. If you have 100 people visiting the site all trying to run the coreboot qemu, the web server would probably choke?
Thanks - Joe
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 07:59:33AM -0500, joe@smittys.pointclark.net wrote:
I am pretty fluent in php / html.
Going back to the competition, we will need a database, an entry form and some way to pick the winner. I think a web based entry form is a good idea.
//Peter
Quoting Peter Stuge peter@stuge.se:
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 07:59:33AM -0500, joe@smittys.pointclark.net wrote:
I am pretty fluent in php / html.
Going back to the competition, we will need a database, an entry form and some way to pick the winner. I think a web based entry form is a good idea.
//Peter
Sure Peter, that would be simple. Each form submitted gets an entry number. Then at drawing time we use a random number generator to pick the winner. Let me know if your serious about this and I will wip something up.
Thanks - Joe
On 27.01.2008 20:46, joe@smittys.pointclark.net wrote:
Quoting Peter Stuge peter@stuge.se:
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 07:59:33AM -0500, joe@smittys.pointclark.net wrote:
I am pretty fluent in php / html.
Going back to the competition, we will need a database, an entry form and some way to pick the winner. I think a web based entry form is a good idea.
Sure Peter, that would be simple. Each form submitted gets an entry number. Then at drawing time we use a random number generator to pick the winner. Let me know if your serious about this and I will wip something up.
Maybe having a few subquestions in the contest would make determining the winner less of a lottery. Suggestions: - Predict absolute time to first Linux kernel message under CB and proprietary BIOS. (2 questions) - Predict time saved as ratio/percentage. (1 question) - Predict how many total/different boards we manage to convert over the day. (2 questions) The later a person enters his/her guess, the less it is worth. That way, someone entering information already known by the time is not rewarded as much as if he had guessed everything correctly before he could know/measure it.
What do you think? Is it doable? Are my ideas totally off the mark?
Regards, Carl-Daniel
Quoting joe@smittys.pointclark.net:
Quoting Peter Stuge peter@stuge.se:
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 07:59:33AM -0500, joe@smittys.pointclark.net wrote:
I am pretty fluent in php / html.
Going back to the competition, we will need a database, an entry form and some way to pick the winner. I think a web based entry form is a good idea.
//Peter
Sure Peter, that would be simple. Each form submitted gets an entry number. Then at drawing time we use a random number generator to pick the winner. Let me know if your serious about this and I will wip something up.
So Peter did you want me wip something up?
Thanks - Joe
Am Sonntag, den 27.01.2008, 05:57 -0500 schrieb Corey Osgood:
A bit off-topic, but this is an idea I've been toying with for a little while now: a web-based interface to see coreboot in action. Somebody visiting the site is presented with an option, to start the "machine" (most likely QEMU) with either coreboot or the factory BIOS. They can then see the "machine" start up, and use busybox or bash to do some basic commands, look at the coreboot log, etc. I'm not a real web developer, so I have very little of an idea what it would take to do this, I just think it would be cool. Comments?
There's a java based x86 emulator, that could be used: http://www-jpc.physics.ox.ac.uk/
But I have no idea how accurate it is in early initialization.
Regards, Patrick Georgi
Am Sonntag, den 27.01.2008, 14:11 +0100 schrieb Patrick Georgi:
Am Sonntag, den 27.01.2008, 05:57 -0500 schrieb Corey Osgood:
A bit off-topic, but this is an idea I've been toying with for a little while now: a web-based interface to see coreboot in action. Somebody visiting the site is presented with an option, to start the "machine" (most likely QEMU) with either coreboot or the factory BIOS. They can then see the "machine" start up, and use busybox or bash to do some basic commands, look at the coreboot log, etc. I'm not a real web developer, so I have very little of an idea what it would take to do this, I just think it would be cool. Comments?
There's a java based x86 emulator, that could be used: http://www-jpc.physics.ox.ac.uk/
But I have no idea how accurate it is in early initialization.
small report: It's missing larger parts of pmode (that's still "beta"), and simply replacing their (bochs?) bios with my qemu-tested cbv2 image results in errors like:
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Unimplemented Microcode: JUMP_FAR_O32 java.lang.IllegalStateException: Unimplemented Microcode: STORE0_CR3 java.lang.IllegalStateException: Unimplemented Microcode: LGDT_O32 @ 0xf536a
and
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Attempted To Construct Reserved Segment Type
at least these errors should help filling in the missing bits if someone is interested.
When that works, we could provide a .jar file with a demo bios image or something like that, for instant experimentation as java applet.
Regards, Patrick Georgi
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 03:01:50PM +0100, Patrick Georgi wrote:
When that works, we could provide a .jar file with a demo bios image or something like that, for instant experimentation as java applet.
Indeed neat! Do you know if jpc is actively worked on?
//Peter
On 27.01.2008 16:07, Peter Stuge wrote:
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 03:01:50PM +0100, Patrick Georgi wrote:
When that works, we could provide a .jar file with a demo bios image or something like that, for instant experimentation as java applet.
Indeed neat! Do you know if jpc is actively worked on?
Having a target which can be run from a web browser lowers the barrier to entry indeed. However, even though JPC is actively worked on, I doubt we have the resources to port v3 to it and fix the emulator at the same time. Qemu may not be the easiest codebase for adding functionality, but it already works well enough for v2 and v3 modulo a few bugs. If anyone wants to port v3 to JPC or tell the JPC people about coreboot, great!
Regards, Carl-Daniel
On 25.01.2008 16:17, Peter Stuge wrote:
The Call for Projects has been released. http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/de/community/projects/cfpro.html http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/en/community/projects/cfpro/call-for-projects.h...
Applications must be in before February 21st.
I think we did OK last year, but if we do a bit more careful planning and preparations I think this year can be much better. The organizers expressed interest in a much larger and better advertised workshop-type event where we would help people get coreboot working on their systems.
I am certainly interested in exhibiting coreboot. Anyone else?
Absolutely. Who will write the application and who will decide on what we do in the workshop?
Regards, Carl-Daniel
URGENT call for everybody going to the LinuxTag exhibition!
On 25.01.2008 16:17, Peter Stuge wrote:
The Call for Projects has been released. http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/de/community/projects/cfpro.html http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/en/community/projects/cfpro/call-for-projects.h...
Applications must be in before February 21st.
That's tomorrow.
Who will be at LinuxTag to help out at our booth? You don't have to be there for the whole time, but having more than one person would certainly help. I need answers by tomorrow 18:00 GMT to make sure we actually get free exhibitor tickets for you.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
Hi all,
we have been accepted for a community booth at LinuxTag 2008 in Berlin, May 28-31. http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/
Now we need people to help with booth building, staffing the booth during the exhibition, and teardown. Due to some unfortunate circumstances, some people who were there last year probably won't be able to participate again. Staffers will get a free exhibition pass which enables them to enter exhibition grounds before the exhibition opens. Project members who are willing to watch the booth for some time can get a free pass as well.
PLEASE get in touch with me and/or the list if you plan to be there.
The decision about how much booth space we get has not been made yet. It also is unclear whether we can offer a workshop.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
Hi everybody,
Am Mittwoch, den 19.03.2008, 02:33 +0100 schrieb Carl-Daniel Hailfinger:
PLEASE get in touch with me and/or the list if you plan to be there.
As I wrote you already privately, I would be willing to help out. I do not know yet, when I will have classes next semester, but I guess the TU Berlin is not too far away, so this should not be a big problem. And on Saturday I can be there all day.
As I also told you before, I more or less have no clue about the internals of coreboot. Helping in building up the booth would be a good task for me ;)
I hope to see you all in Berlin.
Paul
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