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I've brought this up today on IRC. My main argument is that the coreboot mailing list should be a place for discussion, for newcomers asking for help, talking about the future of the project, etc. Definitely more for discussion and less for patch review.
We have gerrit for patch review. Some (actually, a lot) of people prefer to do their reviews by replying to the gerrit emails. It's awesome to have this option. The more the merrier, right? Right.
Back in the days -- I mean waaaay back, think patchwork and svn -- doing patch review on the list, with some deficiencies, worked fine. We switched to git and gerrit. We eventually got to the problem that gerrit traffic accounts for most of the traffic on the mailing list. It makes the list irritatingly clobbered for some people, to the point they just stop using it.
The argument from the "I like gerrit in the mailinglist" camp is "setting up your own filter to keep out gerrit message is easy". We can't really force people to do this. They (myself included) would rather stoThp using the mailing list.
All I've said and refuted above are arguments and rants we like to use to tease each other. I strongly believe that it makes sense, now more than ever, to separate development and discussion traffic into two separate lists. I hope you all agree.
Alex
As a lurker, mostly anyway, I wholeheartedly agree. And I think for the 'you can set up a filter' group, I think the opposite is true. You can just setup a filter for the gerrit mails to put mails into the same directory I suppose too :)
Oliver
On 08/08/12 23:28, Alex G. wrote:
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I've brought this up today on IRC. My main argument is that the coreboot mailing list should be a place for discussion, for newcomers asking for help, talking about the future of the project, etc. Definitely more for discussion and less for patch review.
We have gerrit for patch review. Some (actually, a lot) of people prefer to do their reviews by replying to the gerrit emails. It's awesome to have this option. The more the merrier, right? Right.
Back in the days -- I mean waaaay back, think patchwork and svn -- doing patch review on the list, with some deficiencies, worked fine. We switched to git and gerrit. We eventually got to the problem that gerrit traffic accounts for most of the traffic on the mailing list. It makes the list irritatingly clobbered for some people, to the point they just stop using it.
The argument from the "I like gerrit in the mailinglist" camp is "setting up your own filter to keep out gerrit message is easy". We can't really force people to do this. They (myself included) would rather stoThp using the mailing list.
All I've said and refuted above are arguments and rants we like to use to tease each other. I strongly believe that it makes sense, now more than ever, to separate development and discussion traffic into two separate lists. I hope you all agree.
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Yes, I agree that it can help search important messages, without tons of gerrit notifications.
Best regards, Anton Kochkov.
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Oliver Schinagl oliver@schinagl.nlwrote:
As a lurker, mostly anyway, I wholeheartedly agree. And I think for the 'you can set up a filter' group, I think the opposite is true. You can just setup a filter for the gerrit mails to put mails into the same directory I suppose too :)
Oliver
On 08/08/12 23:28, Alex G. wrote:
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I've brought this up today on IRC. My main argument is that the coreboot mailing list should be a place for discussion, for newcomers asking for help, talking about the future of the project, etc. Definitely more for discussion and less for patch review.
We have gerrit for patch review. Some (actually, a lot) of people prefer to do their reviews by replying to the gerrit emails. It's awesome to have this option. The more the merrier, right? Right.
Back in the days -- I mean waaaay back, think patchwork and svn -- doing patch review on the list, with some deficiencies, worked fine. We switched to git and gerrit. We eventually got to the problem that gerrit traffic accounts for most of the traffic on the mailing list. It makes the list irritatingly clobbered for some people, to the point they just stop using it.
The argument from the "I like gerrit in the mailinglist" camp is "setting up your own filter to keep out gerrit message is easy". We can't really force people to do this. They (myself included) would rather stoThp using the mailing list.
All I've said and refuted above are arguments and rants we like to use to tease each other. I strongly believe that it makes sense, now more than ever, to separate development and discussion traffic into two separate lists. I hope you all agree.
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On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 04:28:45PM -0500, Alex G. wrote:
All I've said and refuted above are arguments and rants we like to use to tease each other. I strongly believe that it makes sense, now more than ever, to separate development and discussion traffic into two separate lists. I hope you all agree.
I very much agree.
Thanks, Ward.
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