Master degree student wanting to give some help.

[Cedric RIVERA]

Hello everybody,

I'm a french master degree student in Free Software ingeneering, looking
for a year project to join and I really love to be involved in Coreboot
community to :

improve AMD690G chipset support, or
   Openmoko coreboot port or
   port coreboot-v3 to Gigabyte M57SLI-S4, I've got one to develop.

I just need that someone supervise my work and do, monthly, a feedback to
my teacher at the university to have a note.

Son is someone interested ?

Thank you for your attention,

Regards,

Cedric RIVERA.

Master I2L - Université du Littoral - Côte d'Opale, France.

[bari]

It would be great if you could get the AM2, 690/600 code to work on a 
few production boards that are readily available through distributors.

I'd be happy to get you a board to start on and supervise.

-Bari

Cedric RIVERA wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
> I'm a french master degree student in Free Software ingeneering, 
> looking for a year project to join and I really love to be involved in 
> Coreboot community to :
>
> improve AMD690G chipset support, or
>    Openmoko coreboot port or
>    port coreboot-v3 to Gigabyte M57SLI-S4, I've got one to develop.
>
> I just need that someone supervise my work and do, monthly, a 
> feedback to my teacher at the university to have a note.
>
> Son is someone interested ?
>
> Thank you for your attention,
>
> Regards,
>
> Cedric RIVERA.
>
> Master I2L - Université du Littoral - Côte d'Opale, France.

[ron minnich]

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:35 AM, bari  wrote:
> It would be great if you could get the AM2, 690/600 code to work on a few
> production boards that are readily available through distributors.
>
> I'd be happy to get you a board to start on and supervise.

we sure could use the help on getting this on v3. I'm really anxious
to get our v3 support up for the new k8 and k10 boards.

ron

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[Uwe Hermann]

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 09:35:21AM -0500, bari wrote:
> It would be great if you could get the AM2, 690/600 code to work on a  
> few production boards that are readily available through distributors.

I've also looked at some candidate boards with RS690 chipset. So far I've
found quite a few boards which still have a socketed ROM chip (SOIC8 or PLCC).

Soldered-on ROM chips are unfortunate as recovery without soldering skills
is usually impossible.

See http://www.coreboot.org/Desktops for details.

HTH, Uwe.

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[ron minnich]

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> See http://www.coreboot.org/Desktops for details.

lots of options. Let's pick one we can all use and go for that.
Suggestions? I'm ready to order ...

ron

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[Jordan Crouse]

On 30/09/08 09:15 -0700, ron minnich wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> > See http://www.coreboot.org/Desktops for details.
>
> lots of options. Let's pick one we can all use and go for that.
> Suggestions? I'm ready to order ...

If you want my honest opinion, I think it would be better in the long
run for the project if everybody picked something *different*.

we will learn more from multiple motherboards then we will from everybody
hacking on the same one.

Jordan
> ron

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[ron minnich]

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Jordan Crouse  wrote:
> On 30/09/08 09:15 -0700, ron minnich wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> > > See http://www.coreboot.org/Desktops for details.
> >
> > lots of options. Let's pick one we can all use and go for that.
> > Suggestions? I'm ready to order ...
>
> If you want my honest opinion, I think it would be better in the long
> run for the project if everybody picked something *different*.

as long as it gets to be more than me writing the v3 code, that makes sense.

ron

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[Uwe Hermann]

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:24:15AM -0600, Jordan Crouse wrote:
> On 30/09/08 09:15 -0700, ron minnich wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> > > See http://www.coreboot.org/Desktops for details.
> >
> > lots of options. Let's pick one we can all use and go for that.
> > Suggestions? I'm ready to order ...
>
> If you want my honest opinion, I think it would be better in the long
> run for the project if everybody picked something *different*.
>
> we will learn more from multiple motherboards then we will from everybody
> hacking on the same one.

Agreed.

I've bought a cheapo ASUS M2A-MX off of ebay. I hope that SOIC8 chip is
indeed socketed as the photos suggest...

Uwe.

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[bari]

ron minnich wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> > See http://www.coreboot.org/Desktops for details.
>
> lots of options. Let's pick one we can all use and go for that.
> Suggestions? I'm ready to order ...
>
> ron

Socketed Flash and mini-itx:

AB6S-RS690IKM
http://www.eqscomputers.com/products/mobo/details.php?model=AB6S-RS690IKM

A270
http://www.winmate.com.tw/PPc/PPcSpec.asp?Prod=05_0007&Typeid=050302

KI690-AM2
http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/product/mb/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specifica...

KI51PV-754
http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/product/mb/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specifica...

KINO-690S1
http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...

KINO-690AM2
http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...

There are a few more but Ican't get a hold of anyone technical and the 
pics or data sheets don't show a socketed Flash device for BIOS.

I will check on best pricing , availability and long term support.

-Bari

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[bari]

bari wrote:
> Socketed Flash and mini-itx:
>
> AB6S-RS690IKM
> http://www.eqscomputers.com/products/mobo/details.php?model=AB6S-RS690IKM
>
> A270
> http://www.winmate.com.tw/PPc/PPcSpec.asp?Prod=05_0007&Typeid=050302
>
> KI690-AM2
> http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/product/mb/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specifica...
>
> KI51PV-754
> http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/product/mb/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specifica...
>
> KINO-690S1
> http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...
>
> KINO-690AM2
> http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...

Micro-ATX  , socketed Flash:

MB-a6900
http://www.arbor.com.tw/products/products_detail.aspx?Product_Name=MB-a6900

-Bari

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[bari]

bari wrote:
> bari wrote:
> > Socketed Flash and mini-itx:

My mistake on this board, it's an nvidia chipset not AMD 690/600
> > KI51PV-754
> > http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/product/mb/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specifica...

-Bari

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[ron minnich]

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:44 AM, bari  wrote:
> Socketed Flash and mini-itx:
>
> AB6S-RS690IKM
> http://www.eqscomputers.com/products/mobo/details.php?model=AB6S-RS690IKM

optional lan? Are they serious?
> A270
> http://www.winmate.com.tw/PPc/PPcSpec.asp?Prod=05_0007&Typeid=050302

http://www.winmate.com.tw/PPc/PPcSpec.asp?Prod=05_0007&Typeid=050302
I thought this one was pretty nice. Is there a realtek 8111 driver
yet? Where to buy? Fly to taiwan it seems.
> KI690-AM2
> http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/product/mb/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specifica...

marvell lanl? no no no no ...
> KI51PV-754
> http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/product/mb/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specifica...

marvell lanl? no no no no ...
> KINO-690S1
> http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...
>
> KINO-690AM2
> http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...

no joy from the website.

well, so far no good :-)

ron

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

ron minnich a écrit :
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:44 AM, bari  wrote:
> > Socketed Flash

If I remember well Abit AX78 has a socketed flash. It is an atx AM2+
motherboard with an AMD 770 chipset on board and could be a good
candidate...

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[bari]

[e-mail] wrote:
> If I remember well Abit AX78 has a socketed flash. It is an atx AM2+
> motherboard with an AMD 770 chipset on board and could be a good
> candidate...

The problem is that this board uses the AMD 770 vs the 690 chipset. The 
690 is currently supported, the 770 is not.

-Bari

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[bari]

ron minnich wrote:
> > KINO-690S1
> > http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...
> >
> > KINO-690AM2
> > http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...
>
> no joy from the website.
>
> well, so far no good :-)
>
> ron

Maybe this one? I'm a little tied up lately, haven't had much time to 
follow up.

K-690AM2
Mini-ITX Motherboard with Socket AM2 AMD® Athlon 64, Athlon 64 x 2, 
Sempron CPU, VGA/DVI, Dual PCIe GbE, USB 2.0, SATA II and Audio

http://www.industrialpc.com/product_info.php?pid=932

http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...

IEI Technology USA Corp.
168 UNIVERSITY PARKWAY
POMONA, CA 91768-4300
TEL: [phone]  |   FAX: [phone]

See if you can find anything wrong with it. They have a disti in Indiana.

Industrial PC, Inc.
15335 Endeavor Drive, Suite 103
Noblesville, IN 46060

EMAIL:
[e-mail]

PHONE:
1-888-255-5508
1-317-915-1005
Mon-Fri 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. EST/EDT
(Voicemail after hours)

FAX:
1-317-915-1004
24hrs. / 7 days

They also have a similar board with the AMD® Socket S1

http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...

-Bari

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[bari]

ron minnich wrote:
> > A270
> > http://www.winmate.com.tw/PPc/PPcSpec.asp?Prod=05_0007&Typeid=050302
>
> http://www.winmate.com.tw/PPc/PPcSpec.asp?Prod=05_0007&Typeid=050302
> I thought this one was pretty nice. Is there a realtek 8111 driver
> yet? Where to buy? Fly to taiwan it seems.

America(USA)

American Industrial Systems Inc.
1768 McGaw Ave. Irvine , C 92614 , USA
TEL:[phone] x466
FAX:[phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

http://aispro.com/BoxPc/EmbeddedSpec.asp?Prod=05_0007&Typeid=0508

Happy to track these down if you do the porting :)

-Bari

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[ron minnich]

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:08 AM, bari  wrote:
> Happy to track these down if you do the porting :)

if you can find the good one the port is in progress

ron

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[bari]

ron minnich wrote:
> if you can find the good one the port is in progress
> ron

These are both in stock:

K-690AM2
Mini-ITX Motherboard with Socket AM2 AMD® Athlon 64, Athlon 64 x 2, 
Sempron CPU, VGA/DVI, Dual PCIe GbE, USB 2.0, SATA II and Audio

http://www.industrialpc.com/product_info.php?pid=932

http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...

IEI Technology USA Corp.
168 UNIVERSITY PARKWAY
POMONA, CA 91768-4300
TEL: [phone]  |   FAX: [phone]

See if you can find anything wrong with it. They also have a disti in 
Indiana.

Industrial PC, Inc.
15335 Endeavor Drive, Suite 103
Noblesville, IN 46060

EMAIL:
[e-mail]

PHONE:
1-888-255-5508
1-317-915-1005
Mon-Fri 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. EST/EDT
(Voicemail after hours)

They also have a similar board with the AMD® Socket S1

http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=000010000...

-Bari

AMD RS690 / SB600 candidate boards with socketed ROM

[bari]

Uwe Hermann wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 09:35:21AM -0500, bari wrote:
> > It would be great if you could get the AM2, 690/600 code to work on a  
> > few production boards that are readily available through distributors.
>
> I've also looked at some candidate boards with RS690 chipset. So far I've
> found quite a few boards which still have a socketed ROM chip (SOIC8 or PLCC).
>
> Soldered-on ROM chips are unfortunate as recovery without soldering skills
> is usually impossible.
>
> See http://www.coreboot.org/Desktops for details.
>
> HTH, Uwe.

The desktop boards probably won't be on the shelves for long. The AMD 
790 has already replaced much of it. There are a few mini-itx boards in 
long term production that may make more sense.

Many are found here:

http://wwwd.amd.com/catalog/salescat.nsf/shopsearchview?SearchView&Query...

-Bari

[Cedric RIVERA]

Hello,

Well, thank you for welcoming me like this, I'm little impressed by this
so amazing Coreboot project but I will be so glad to give help.

Like I said before I have no AMD690 board yet but I could start testing
and working on the M57SLI to get familiar with the project architecture and
then if you can get me a board it would be great, I'll accept with no
condition ;-)

Thank you so much.

Cedric.

2008/9/30 bari
> It would be great if you could get the AM2, 690/600 code to work on a few
> production boards that are readily available through distributors.
>
> I'd be happy to get you a board to start on and supervise.
>
> -Bari
>
> Cedric RIVERA wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > I'm a french master degree student in Free Software ingeneering, looking
> > for a year project to join and I really love to be involved in Coreboot
> > community to :
> >
> > improve AMD690G chipset support, or
> >   Openmoko coreboot port or
> >   port coreboot-v3 to Gigabyte M57SLI-S4, I've got one to develop.
> >
> > I just need that someone supervise my work and do, monthly, a feedback to
> > my teacher at the university to have a note.
> >
> > Son is someone interested ?
> >
> > Thank you for your attention,
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Cedric RIVERA.
> >
> > Master I2L - Université du Littoral - Côte d'Opale, France.

[Peter Stuge]

Hi Cedric,

Cedric RIVERA wrote:
> I'm a french master degree student in Free Software ingeneering,
> looking for a year project to join and I really love to be involved
> in Coreboot community to :
>
> improve AMD690G chipset support, or
>    port coreboot-v3 to Gigabyte M57SLI-S4, I've got one to develop.

I think these two are both great candidates. m57sli in v3 has already
been started, so it is likely to be the simplest task. It would also
be a good way to get familiar with the code and structure.
> Openmoko coreboot port or

Probably not so useful. Is there a PCI bus in the Openmoko?
> I just need that someone supervise my work and do, monthly, a
> feedback to my teacher at the university to have a note.
>
> Son is someone interested ?

You already have some offers but I'll add myself too. :) I'm
interested in both 690 and m57sli in v3, but even more in K8/Fam10 in
v3 in general because I think we need to make some (relatively) small
design changes to make sure we get the most out of v3.

//Peter

[Cedric RIVERA]

Hi Peter,

Thank you for your positive answer and your welcome.

Well I start with m57sli, soldering first ;-) and then flashing eeprom to
become free. I need some time to understand the coreboot structure and so
there is some risk that I ask you, all you, for very stupid things but I'm
sure you will be happy to kidding me well ...
  I appreciate your offer to supervise my work on this project and so I'll
accept it too, it could be many supervisor !

Thank you, one more time, I'm so happy with this project !

Have a good day Coreboot people !

Cedric.

2008/9/30 Peter Stuge
> Hi Cedric,
>
> Cedric RIVERA wrote:
> > I'm a french master degree student in Free Software ingeneering,
> > looking for a year project to join and I really love to be involved
> > in Coreboot community to :
> >
> > improve AMD690G chipset support, or
> >    port coreboot-v3 to Gigabyte M57SLI-S4, I've got one to develop.
>
> I think these two are both great candidates. m57sli in v3 has already
> been started, so it is likely to be the simplest task. It would also
> be a good way to get familiar with the code and structure.
> > Openmoko coreboot port or
>
> Probably not so useful. Is there a PCI bus in the Openmoko?
> > I just need that someone supervise my work and do, monthly, a
> > feedback to my teacher at the university to have a note.
> >
> > Son is someone interested ?
>
> You already have some offers but I'll add myself too. :) I'm
> interested in both 690 and m57sli in v3, but even more in K8/Fam10 in
> v3 in general because I think we need to make some (relatively) small
> design changes to make sure we get the most out of v3.
>
> //Peter

[ron minnich]

Cedric this is good news. You'll be working on v3 right :-)

ron

[Cedric RIVERA]

Hello,

Yes, 'I'm on it, first for Gigabyte M57SLI.

Cedric.

2008/10/1 ron minnich
> Cedric this is good news. You'll be working on v3 right :-)
>
> ron

[Tiago Marques]

Hi.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Peter Stuge  wrote:
> Hi Cedric,
>
> Cedric RIVERA wrote:
> > I'm a french master degree student in Free Software ingeneering,
> > looking for a year project to join and I really love to be involved
> > in Coreboot community to :
> >
> > improve AMD690G chipset support, or
> >    port coreboot-v3 to Gigabyte M57SLI-S4, I've got one to develop.
>
> I think these two are both great candidates. m57sli in v3 has already
> been started, so it is likely to be the simplest task. It would also
> be a good way to get familiar with the code and structure.
> > Openmoko coreboot port or
>
> Probably not so useful. Is there a PCI bus in the Openmoko?

Why is this important? Supposedly, the next iteration of Intel's Atom
platform won't feature a PCI bus, coreboot won't work with it?
> > I just need that someone supervise my work and do, monthly, a
> > feedback to my teacher at the university to have a note.
> >
> > Son is someone interested ?
>
> You already have some offers but I'll add myself too. :) I'm
> interested in both 690 and m57sli in v3, but even more in K8/Fam10 in
> v3 in general because I think we need to make some (relatively) small
> design changes to make sure we get the most out of v3.
>
> //Peter

[Peter Stuge]

Hi Tiago,

Tiago Marques wrote:
> > > Openmoko coreboot port or
> >
> > Probably not so useful. Is there a PCI bus in the Openmoko?
>
> Why is this important?

coreboot really does just two things; RAM init and bus init.

The buses coreboot knows so far are V-Link, HT and PCI(e).
(Did I miss some?)
> Supposedly, the next iteration of Intel's Atom platform won't
> feature a PCI bus, coreboot won't work with it?

coreboot already does not work with much of Intel's hardware, I don't
think a new Atom will have much effect on that.

That aside, of course coreboot could be made to support Atom. If
there's no PCI then maybe something else needs initialization,
complex or simple.

The point is that RAM and bus init is often pretty tricky, and on
smaller systems with simpler buses there isn't as much for coreboot
to do.

But of course, coreboot should run everywhere! :p

//Peter

[Tiago Marques]

The current Atom platform and the Poulsbo platform havea PCI bus, it's
successor, Moorestown, will have no PCI bus and this is pointed as a problem
to run Windows in it, Linux, I've heard, will work fine even without the PCI
bus.

If coreboot is to be eventually ported to that platform, I'm just pointing
this out, so you can prevent decisions that can hurt Coreboot in the long
run and cause a new code overhaul(v4).

Best regards,

Tiago Marques

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Peter Stuge  wrote:
> Hi Tiago,
>
> Tiago Marques wrote:
> > > > Openmoko coreboot port or
> > >
> > > Probably not so useful. Is there a PCI bus in the Openmoko?
> >
> > Why is this important?
>
> coreboot really does just two things; RAM init and bus init.
>
> The buses coreboot knows so far are V-Link, HT and PCI(e).
> (Did I miss some?)
> > Supposedly, the next iteration of Intel's Atom platform won't
> > feature a PCI bus, coreboot won't work with it?
>
> coreboot already does not work with much of Intel's hardware, I don't
> think a new Atom will have much effect on that.
>
> That aside, of course coreboot could be made to support Atom. If
> there's no PCI then maybe something else needs initialization,
> complex or simple.
>
> The point is that RAM and bus init is often pretty tricky, and on
> smaller systems with simpler buses there isn't as much for coreboot
> to do.
>
> But of course, coreboot should run everywhere! :p
>
> //Peter