Hi all, I've grepped through the source code last night but haven't found code for board that uses this chipset. Is there any support coming down the road? I'm planning to buy a new system for BIOS experiments in the next few days. This chipset is a candidate for me. I want a chipset with onboard video and K8 processor. I choose K8 because the datasheet for the memory controller is readily available. I'm open for any suggestion(s). Basically, I just want a system that can run Vista, support multicore processor and can be used for LinuxBIOS experiments (preferably without soldering stuff needed). Anyway, one further question: hot-flashing can be done on SPI chips as well, right?
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"Darmawan Salihun" darmawan.salihun@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all, I've grepped through the source code last night but haven't found code for board that uses this chipset. Is there any support coming down the road? I'm planning to buy a new system for BIOS experiments in the next few days. This chipset is a candidate for me. I want a chipset with onboard video and K8 processor. I choose K8 because the datasheet for the memory controller is readily available. I'm open for any suggestion(s). Basically, I just want a system that can run Vista, support multicore processor and can be used for LinuxBIOS experiments (preferably without soldering stuff needed). Anyway, one further question: hot-flashing can be done on SPI chips as well, right?
I am thinking along the same lines. My primary candidate is NForce 430 since MCP55 is already supported. But that could of course mean absolutely nothing at all. Just because there is working code for one NVidia chipset it doesn't mean that code will be easy to adapt th the 430. But one can always hope. :)
/Rasmus
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:37:04AM +0700, Darmawan Salihun wrote:
Is there any support coming down the road?
I haven't seen it mentioned.
I'm planning to buy a new system for BIOS experiments in the next few days. This chipset is a candidate for me. I want a chipset with onboard video and K8 processor.
I guess you want a Tyan board then. But I think they're mostly server class boards so a bit expensive.
I choose K8 because the datasheet for the memory controller is readily available.
K8 is really well supported by LB.
I'm open for any suggestion(s). Basically, I just want a system that can run Vista, support multicore processor and can be used for LinuxBIOS experiments (preferably without soldering stuff needed).
Onboard graphics is what gets you into trouble. You'll almost always need to solder today. Not many boards ship with socketed flash, especially not in the desktop segment.
Anyway, one further question: hot-flashing can be done on SPI chips as well, right?
Sure, but they're never socketed from factory. You would have to hack some hardware together.
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:20:07AM +0200, Rasmus Wiman wrote:
I am thinking along the same lines. My primary candidate is NForce 430 since MCP55 is already supported. But that could of course mean absolutely nothing at all. Just because there is working code for one NVidia chipset it doesn't mean that code will be easy to adapt th the 430.
The current support for NVIDIA was written by Yinghai while at AMD where he had access to all the neccessary data sheets. I'm not sure if he's still got access to good docs from NV?
//Peter
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:04:32PM +0200, Peter Stuge wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:37:04AM +0700, Darmawan Salihun wrote:
Is there any support coming down the road?
I haven't seen it mentioned.
See Marc's post, they're working on it (which is great!)
I'm planning to buy a new system for BIOS experiments in the next few days. This chipset is a candidate for me. I want a chipset with onboard video and K8 processor.
I guess you want a Tyan board then. But I think they're mostly server class boards so a bit expensive.
Other alternatives, which are not quite there yet, but good candidates for the future:
ASUS A8N-E ASUS A8NE-FM/S ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe maybe others
And if you're willing to invest some more work to add support for a completely new board, check this list for good candidates: http://linuxbios.org/Desktops
I'm open for any suggestion(s). Basically, I just want a system that can run Vista, support multicore processor and can be used for LinuxBIOS experiments (preferably without soldering stuff needed).
You'll almost always need to solder today. Not many boards ship with socketed flash, especially not in the desktop segment.
Nah, I wouldn't say that. Check http://linuxbios.org/Desktops, almost all boards listed there seem to have a socketed BIOS (judging from PCB photos I found on the web).
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:20:07AM +0200, Rasmus Wiman wrote:
I am thinking along the same lines. My primary candidate is NForce 430 since MCP55 is already supported. But that could of course mean absolutely nothing at all. Just because there is working code for one NVidia chipset it doesn't mean that code will be easy to adapt th the 430.
The current support for NVIDIA was written by Yinghai while at AMD where he had access to all the neccessary data sheets. I'm not sure if he's still got access to good docs from NV?
Dunno either, but my guess is that _without_ those docs you cannot easily adapt the MCP55 (or CK804) code to another NVIDIA chipset. But feel free to correct me if it's easier than I think...
Uwe.
Uwe Hermann uwe@hermann-uwe.de wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:04:32PM +0200, Peter Stuge wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:37:04AM +0700, Darmawan Salihun wrote:
Is there any support coming down the road?
I haven't seen it mentioned.
See Marc's post, they're working on it (which is great!)
I didn't read that one, but now I have started checking out the AMD 690 options too. I thought the NV6100 were the cheapset k8 MB:s here in Sweden, but now I just saw a Gigabyte GA-MA69VM-S2 ATX board for 373 kronor, and a MSI K9AGM2-L micro ATX for 464. There might be even cheaper ones, I did not do a thorough search. I might get myself the MSI board when I can afford it. I suppose I can't do much LB developing myself until Marc has a go on it, but what the hell. Most of my computers are old and slow anyway and I need a box to play with Solaris.
/Rasmus
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 12:21:32AM +0200, Rasmus Wiman wrote:
I just saw a Gigabyte GA-MA69VM-S2 ATX board for 373 kronor, and a MSI K9AGM2-L micro ATX for 464.
Where?
//Peter
Peter Stuge peter@stuge.se wrote:
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 12:21:32AM +0200, Rasmus Wiman wrote:
I just saw a Gigabyte GA-MA69VM-S2 ATX board for 373 kronor, and a MSI K9AGM2-L micro ATX for 464.
Where?
I the page says they don't have the cards in stock, but they are in the price list.
Also, by the way, since I didn't notice until today, someone else could also have missed this: http://www.x.org/docs/AMD/
Who knows, it could be useful to someone here.
/Rasmus
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