Karl,
On Thu, 2022-04-14 at 16:06 -0400, Karl Semich wrote:
Hi Martin,
I think we all agree that it'd be good to have test racks that have all of the boards in the coreboot repository for verification, however that's currently not practical with the resources we have. The whole thing just isn't a simple problem to solve.
Often the biggest impediment to something like this is simply holding it as a shared goal, and continuing to do so when issues arise.
If public test labs were desired, a callout for donations of space and hardware could be placed on the main page. If somebody had the capacity to do more than that, then local makerspaces and hackerspaces could be reached out to.
I'm actually also not completely convinced that just testing the boards is the solution to whether or not we keep a board/chip on the mastre branch. If there really aren't any people using coreboot on their quark boards, then personally, I don't see any need to keep it in the master branch. I know others feel differently, but as I said earlier in this thread, I don't think there's actually any harm in moving an aging or little-used platform to be maintained on a branch.
Sounds like there is a difference of opinion in the community.
It seems obvious to me that there would be people using coreboot on their quark boards. The world is gigantic.
Possible. However, if that is the case, why don't they show their interest in this discussion? Yeah, I know, next arguments will be "but maybe they don't know about the ML", "maybe they don't have time", maybe this, maybe that.
Once again, nobody is talking about deleting the platform or make it unusable. Actually, moving it to a branch is the exact opposite to that - preserve a *hopefully* working state, while still taking maintaince work from ***VOLUNTEERS***.
It's always the same... people making demands (like test labs, maintenance, etc.) and when you ask them to do the job they refuse... well, ...
Don't get me wrong, please. The idea of having test labs is great! However, it costs money, like Martin already noted. Also, testing is not the solution for all problems. Someone needs to maintain the platform.
But you have a different opinion, which is fine.
It seems to me the reason to include a board is because people care about doing so.
I care enough about including boards that I'd test this one if it was needed to do so to retain it. But I'm just a visitor. And it seems more productive to discuss public test labs that could grow to support more boards. _______________________________________________ coreboot mailing list -- coreboot@coreboot.org To unsubscribe send an email to coreboot-leave@coreboot.org
Michael