Ok, I get your point, but the Iwlwifi is quite open IMHO. I don't really trust Intel, as they may pull the documentation for future products but take a look at this:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=984&num=1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=850&num=1
They seem quite happy, well, at least the graphics division.
I think it would be profitable to talk to companies like http://www.jwele.com/ which are emerging players in the market, to whom coreboot might interest. I can try to do this, but it isn't usually easy to get the right contacts.
Best regards, Tiago Marques
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Cristi Magherusan cristi.magherusan@net.utcluj.ro wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 13:56 +0100, Tiago Marques wrote:
I've seen my fair share of open-source adoption, or not. As such, seeing the recent developments with open-source drivers in the Intel camp, I can say they are pretty happy with the result, everyone is.
From my experience, Intel only cares about the big OEM companies.
When they do give something to the community they usually give poorly-written sourcecode that only they can further maintain instead of proper documentation. The best example are the the ipw3945/iwlwifi drivers for their wireless adapters. http://kerneltrap.org/node/6650 http://www.openbsd.org/papers/brhard2007
Has it already been attempted to contact chipset manufacturers to release information without NDA, much like what AMD has already done with graphics cards?
Yes it was, and they always give evasive answers about Intelectual Property and external regulations that they must follow in order to assure the robustness or security of their products. Pure bull$%!#.
I say this because, if they realize that by allowing open-source replacements for the BIOS would allow for new industry players to have a lower cost of entry to the motherboard manufacturing. This, I see, would drive chipset sales up, which is good for them IMHO. Emerging markets like Chine, which will start doing it anyway, would benefit, like the manufacturer would also.
AMD and VIA are doing this, among others to reduce costs. Intel is just too big for this small starting players.
This is something I think Coreboot should be attempting to "lobby", so NDAs could become a thing of the past.
Anyone has any idea of how much are the costs for using Pheonix or AMI's BIOS?
A few dollars per unit, i guess. I think their strong point is that they offer support for them and make them work on new board models.
Cristi
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