On 29/03/08 02:26 +0100, Peter Stuge wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 08:42:41AM -0600, Jordan Crouse wrote:
I vote for nvram, too, especially if we plan going to non-x86 architectures again. CMOS is really an odd term, I think it got molded by the legacy bios vendors over the years.
On the other hand, CMOS is the agreed upon term for x86 platforms - it sounds stupid to our ears, but we're not typical users. I would stick with CMOS.
I prefer to educate users rather than bending around a bad habit.
The problem is - our users aren't interested in being educated, they are interested in making their stuff work. Taking the high road benefits nobody (yeah, I know that this is the story of the legacy PC world, but its the world we live in).
I don't agree at all that coreboot is targeted exclusively at x86. If other architectures can use new bootcode like the PC then I would love for coreboot to be that new bootcode.
Yes, today it is all x86, but if the hardware can be used in other architectures then the software should as well.
In a few desktop machine generations, when Windows has been better abstracted, the PC arch will linger no more.
AMD/NatSemi already threw it out with the Geode arch.
I think we'll have better code in v4 if we already keep other archs in mind. (Not jump through hoops to befriend them, but just keep them in mind.)
This won't come as a surprise to anybody, but we are lagging years behind the other architectures. There are already very good free and open source boot monitors for many of the other architectures. I view the coreboot effort not as creating something new and magical, but rather as dragging the x86 into modern times to catchup with its cousins that long ago passed it in terms of cluefulness. I hate the idea of spending valuable cycles thinking about other architectures when we're still so far away from making our primary one work. Just my opinion.
Jordan