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Friday Free Software Directory IRC Meeting
This is an event held in the #fsf IRC channel on FreeNode, every
Friday starting in the evenings (Boston/Massachusetts time zone).
Essentially, it is a weekly gathering where people collectively
add/update information on http://directory.fsf.org/ which is a wiki
dedicated to listing as many free software packages as possible.
Coreboot (and also libreboot) are listed there.
Of course, people also contribute to it at other times of the week,
but Friday evenings are when there is the most activity. The idea is,
that it is a set time each week where lots of people come together and
try to improve the wiki as much as possible. This means that every
week, there is a burst of activity; this is also when the moderators
are most active, reviewing changes (coreboot wiki doesn't have
moderators, so this isn't relevant there).
Having such a date means that you are also advertising the existence
of the wiki, encouraging more people to contribute, who would
otherwise not contribute.
Essentially, my idea is to have something similar for the coreboot
wiki. Every week (on a set day - Friday evening is optimal, for
various reasons), people would come together and improve the wiki as
much as possible.
This could be anything from adding pages about boards in coreboot
which are not currently documented, improving existing pages, making
the wiki easier to read, and so on. Anything that improves the
efficiency of the wiki, so that it is a more effective source of
information for coreboot users and developers.
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I have been trying to build the new toolchain on MacOSX. But building
BINUTILS just keeps failing. I am using the toolchain builder v1.31 (June
The output :
Welcome to the coreboot cross toolchain builder v1.31 (June 17th, 2015)
Target architecture is now i386-elf
ERROR: Missing tool: Please install 'g++' utility. (eg using your OS
Downloading tar balls ...
* gmp-6.0.0a.tar.bz2 (cached)
* mpfr-3.1.2.tar.bz2 (cached)
* mpc-1.0.3.tar.gz (cached)
* libelf-0.8.13.tar.gz (cached)
* binutils-2.25.tar.bz2 (cached)
* gcc-4.9.2.tar.bz2 (cached)
Downloaded tar balls ... ok
Unpacking and patching ...
Unpacked and patched ... ok
Building packages ...
Skipping GMP as it is already built
Skipping MPFR as it is already built
Skipping MPC as it is already built
Skipping LIBELF as it is already built
Building BINUTILS 2.25 ... failed. Check build-i386-elf-BINUTILS/build.log.
make: *** [build-i386-without-gdb] Error 1
make: *** [crossgcc-i386] Error 2
The logs suggests there seem to be errors of this sort :
error: use of undeclared identifier 'do_not_use_i
Any ideas as to where to look and how I could solve this?
Attaching the build logs
(./util/crossgcc/build-i386-elf-BINUTILS/build.log) with this mail too.
Also, I tried building the older toolchain on the same machine (Macbook Air
MacOS 10.9 Mavericks), and it succeeds. Here is the output :
No comment. I will not enter into this game...
I think that, as a customer, I could express my concern and my opinions about the fact (not opinion) that I can't install coreboot into my computer. And I can complain about that. Simply as that. I am not interested if the company has a glorious history of open source or not. I have no time and effort to know that. Simply, I have a problem to solve and I pressure the company which causes it.
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 10:35:40 -0700
David Hendricks <dhendrix(a)google.com> ha escrit:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Xan <dxpublica(a)telefonica.net> wrote:
> > Thanks for all the detailed answer. It's a pitty. AMD is a "devil
> > company". What can I do?
> A few simple things you can do:
> 1. Don't refer to a partner who has contributed to coreboot for about a
> decade as a "devil company."
> 2. Don't reference threads/e-mails that bluster over non-existent legal
> issues - That is a guaranteed way to end useful dialog.
> 3. Ask nicely, preferably with a business case for them to make additional
> effort to support you.
> > Regards,
> > >
> David Hendricks (dhendrix)
> Systems Software Engineer, Google Inc.
> Tank you Peter for trying to find some space for coreboot at CCC2015
> (I remeber that you were involved in the organisation of OHM2013, is
> it also the case for CCC2015?)
I'm helping set up an event GSM network like I did at OHM2013.
> I hope that many corebooters could come at this event, it would be
> great to meet you again!..
I'm also looking forward to meeting you all!
Thanks for all the detailed answer. It's a pitty. AMD is a "devil company". What can I do? Is there anywhere which I could email them? I could finance with 10 bucks or so... the beginning... ;-)
> So yes, there has been work done, but it has been more frustration than
> what I would call efficient development so far. There is no contract or
> funding for the fitlet port at the moment, so there is no schedule
> either, at least not from my direction.
> All in all, I think it is a nice compact hardware with a couple of
> different but similar enough models to make ports for. I am actually
> hoping this OEM might be the one to catch enough sales volume to have
> something to say to AMD about this binaryPI thing we constantly struggle
> Kind Regards,
> Kyösti Mälkki
> Quick question : does someone from the coreboot community plan to
> come to the Chaos Communication Camp 2015?
I plan to go there, I guess a few others will also go.
> do you think that we can piggyback this event to organise some kind
> of mini-hackaton for coreboot?
I think there will be some good opportunities. There will be a couple
of different locations where a group could meet to do some coreboot
work, so no need to rent a tent for that.
I'll organize some space for us, but details will only be known very
shortly before the event begins.
Quick question : does someone from the coreboot community plan to come to the Chaos Communication Camp 2015?
For those too lazy to do a googling : the "Chaos Communication Camp" is an hacker event organised by the Chaos Computer Club in Germany and it takes place every 4 years. This year it will be organised from August 13th to 17h and it will take place in Mildenberg (some 30 km north of Berlin).
So, innocent question : do you think that we can piggyback this event to organise some kind of mini-hackaton for coreboot? Is this realistical? (the minimal tent 3m x 6m comes with the price tag 658euro see http://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Rent_a_Tent)
What do think about that?