Re: [coreboot] [RFC] Finding a conference call solution for the CCC

[Martin Roth]

I'm fine with using hangouts.  I actually didn't realize that it had been
updated so that you could join a video conference without a Google account,
and it looks like that was done about a year ago.

It meets all of the requirements that Paul listed.

Are there any objections to using hangouts?

Here's a link to a video hangout, for anyone who wants to test it.
https://hangouts.google.com/call/su2vuj5unbhj7b6i6vizg7cowye

Martin

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Julius Werner <[e-mail]> wrote:
> At the risk of sounding like a corporate shill: what's wrong with
> Google Hangouts? It's got a web interface and native clients for
> Android and iOS. (I'm not sure if you still need a binary plug-in for
> Firefox, but at least Chromium can run it natively via WebRTC.)
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Martin Roth <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > We were thinking of switching to the mumble server that Chris Ching has
> > set
> > up, but it doesn't seem to have any web client or way to work around
> > that.
> >
> > After looking at a number of solutions, I think the solution we'd like to
> > try at this point is Blue Jeans - bluejeans.com.  It's actually a paid
> > service at $120 per year.  I think the biggest advantage here is that it
> > supports a phone bridge, which makes many of the other features
> > unnecessary.
> >
> > Upsides:
> > - Telephone call-in with numbers in many countries:
> > https://bluejeans.com/numbers
> > - Native clients for Windows, Linux (RPM), OSX, IOS, and Android.
> > - Web interface (chrome only - other browsers are being deprecated)
> > - Maximum of 50 attendees per meeting - I think so far our highest
> > attendance has been 12 people or so.
> >
> > Downsides:
> > - Not a free service - it costs $120 per year per host.  The cost may
> > increase in the future. They don't offer a discount for open-source
> > projects
> > or non-profits at this scale.
> > - Web client only works with chrome/chromium
> > - Not an open source solution.
> >
> > Annoyances:
> > - The native Linux client is only available as an rpm
> > - Only a single person (email address) can host a meeting.  I'm not sure
> > of
> > how much an issue this really is - If we schedule the meetings in
> > advance,
> > and it starts automatically, it may not be a problem.  If the host has to
> > join before anyone else can talk, that's not so good.
> >
> > Let me know what you think.
> > Martin
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Paul Menzel via coreboot
> > <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > > Dear coreboot folks,
> > >
> > > At the last coreboot community meeting (CCC) [1][2], some participants
> > > couldn’t here what other participants were saying with the current
> > > conference call solution Discord [3].
> > >
> > > As this greatly reduces the productivity, the conclusion was to find a
> > > different solution, as this problem has been present since the
> > > beginning and Discord doesn’t seem to be able to fix this.
> > >
> > > So either somebody gets in contact with Discord, and they promise to
> > > work on a solution for the next meeting, or we need to find a different
> > > solution.
> > >
> > > The requirements are.
> > >
> > > 1. Working conference call (audio) functionality
> > > 2. No registration necessary
> > > 3. Clients for all operating systems (packages at best in distribution
> > > archive), or at least a Web client that runs with Mozilla Firefox (ESR
> > > and last version), and Google Chromium (last version).
> > >
> > > Chris(?) offered to set up a Mumble [4] server. Clients for all
> > > operating systems are supposed to be available.
> > >
> > > Also Tox was mentioned [5], which doesn’t feature a Web client, as far
> > > as I can see.
> > >
> > > So if you know of a solution, please tell us, so that technical
> > > problems won’t spoil the fun of the CCCs.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.coreboot.org/Coreboot_community_meeting
> > > [2] https://coreboot-meeting.pads.ccc.de/CommunityMeetingTopics?
> > > [3] https://discordapp.com/
> > > [4] https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Main_Page
> > >     "Mumble is an open source, low-latency, high quality voice chat
> > > software primarily intended for use while gaming."
> > > [5] https://tox.chat/
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