# 17 November 2021 - coreboot Leadership
Attendees: Arthur Heymans, Christian Walter, David Hendricks, Felix Held, Jason Glenesk, Jay Talbott, Julius Werner, Martin Roth, Patrick Georgi, Piotr Król, Ron Minnich, Tim Crawford, Werner Zeh
## Key Decisions: * Add note to meeting minutes: Decisions are made based on current information. Bring it up if there needs to be more discussion. * Decisions will be made in the leadership meeting, but unless there's a reason not to, can be revisited if needed.
## Ongoing items: * New videoconferencing system * Jitsi? Limits: 100 ppl is free limit * Tested https://meet.jit.si/ * http://meet.coreboot.org now exists, too. * Jitsi performed very well compared to all the other open source solutions that we’ve used. * Firefox worked well compared to a couple of years ago. * In the vpub, we ran into a jitsi issue where some people couldn’t hear each other. * Biggest Downside: no phone bridges. If we had one or several SIP servers people can call into, we could hook it up (add-on feature on meet.jit.si but available OOTB for custom installs like meet.coreboot.org) * Google meet? * Set up a coreboot account? * This seems problematic, but can be worked. It’s free for non-profits, but the SFC is the non-profit, not coreboot. * Maybe we could OSFF’s google meet account. This currently has the same issue as using Google's internal meet where people not directly invited cannot join, but OSFF is looking at how to disable this. * Biggest downside to Google meet is that it is not open source.
* Documentation updates: * Martin is working to find freelance techwriters who can help for a price that the coreboot project can afford.
## Agenda/Minutes:
* [Niko] Maybe to avoid wasting time with premature decisions, we should make up some guidelines? For instance, first discuss something on the mailing list, then in the leadership meeting? This way people could at least get a little information before they make decisions. * Decisions are often not urgent, so if more information comes, we can reevaluate. * **Result: Add note to meeting minutes: Decisions are made based on current information. Bring it up if there needs to be more discussion.** * It might be nice to push the (then current) agenda ahead of time, e.g. a day early, so people know what will be discussed. * What’s the canonical place to make decisions, mailing list or leadership meeting? * The meeting has the downside that people have to be there at a specific time (even if that’s 2am in Taipei) * People with a topic to discuss that are not able to make it to the meeting should try to find a delegate to represent them. * The mailing list has the issue that we regularly have issues with people misinterpreting tone and topics derailing. * **Result: Decisions will be made in the leadership meeting, but unless there's a reason not to, can be revisited if needed.**
* **["Private" changes on Gerrit are now disabled and removed](https://mail.coreboot.org/hyperkitty/list/coreboot@coreboot.org/thread/N34ZP... - how do we want to handle this? Some people said they preferred it just because it kept people from reviewing the code, even though it wasn’t necessarily completely private. * Look at changing the wording in the UI? This should not be presented as actually being “Private”. * Patrick will reach out to Gerrit team, probably send a patch * Mark as “Unlisted” * Add to the documentation saying that it can be fetched. * Nobody voiced a strong preference to keep the feature disabled.
* The 4.15 release is done. Do we want a branch? Should we just create a branch for every release? * We don't currently need a branch. * If significant things are removed, then we probably want to create a branch.
* No EFI working group meeting next week, it will resume again on Tuesday, Dec 7.
* Moved EFI working group minutes to [a separate document](https://docs.google.com/document/d/13RjAddskjjCGhzIwxDTE1-w6HOIwhyoZsZUIOcau...)
* [Jay]: Build server donation from ITRenew still coming some day.... * Jay asked to be a pest to get ITRenew to work on it, so he’ll be just that. * Awesome!
* Werner: Siemens is hiring for coreboot development: [https://jobs.siemens.com/jobs/279831?lang=en-us%5D(https://jobs.siemens.com/...)
* Number of commits by association for the 4.15 release. **Note that number of commits is a terrible way to judge anything important about the project, so please don’t rely on this as a significant datapoint**, this is just presented as something interesting to see. The “Unknown” category is everyone with fewer than 10 commits in this release cycle.
[Commits in 4.15 release by company/association](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q1vDrcGGchdzlnR6AWkbYC5gInynIaB_/view?usp=s...)
Decisions shown here are not necessarily final, and are based on the current information available. If there are questions or comments about decisions made, or additional information to present, please put it on the leadership meeting agenda and show up if possible to discuss it.
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