If i execute only this command at the root folder of Coreboot source tree : make
Will the project be compiled with GCC of the system or GCC of the system will be patched and changed or it will be compiled exactly with regular GCC of the linux operating system?
Besides will be the object files in elf format and when they are linked? Is there any possibility for other formats?
You did not read my last email didn't you? Do you think we are an expert system to ask? Do you think we have time to waste with you? Of course not, if are not able to get this, go away and find some other people to bother.
No, thanks, Rudolf
Dne 20.7.2010 13:14, ali hagigat napsal(a):
If i execute only this command at the root folder of Coreboot source tree : make
Will the project be compiled with GCC of the system or GCC of the system will be patched and changed or it will be compiled exactly with regular GCC of the linux operating system?
Besides will be the object files in elf format and when they are linked? Is there any possibility for other formats?
These threads have already gotten replies, but I had a half-written reply which I finished now.
Ali, don't send email directly to individuals (you sent to Corey) - make sure to keep the discussion on the mailing list. You can use Reply to All in your email software, but I find it much better to use a program which actually *understands* mailing lists, in which case you will have a Reply to List function which avoids sending duplicates directly to other list participants.
ali hagigat wrote:
There is a .svn folder with some files and folders. How they are created?
This has nothing to do with coreboot. They are a property of the version control system called subversion which is used for the project. If you have never used svn before you could benefit from studying it's documentation. There's a book available as PDF and HTML; try "svn book" on google.com.
ali hagigat wrote:
If i execute only this command at the root folder of Coreboot source tree : make
Will the project be compiled with GCC of the system or GCC of the system will be patched and changed or it will be compiled exactly with regular GCC of the linux operating system?
Your question doesn't make sense; you ask the same thing twice, which suggests a lack of understanding about how GCC fits into a Linux system. This *will* get you completely different replies than you hope for.
How you ask questions and what details you ask about are almost the only ways that you can express yourself on a mailing list.
I think it is important when coming into a group to indicate either that:
1. You are already on a level similar to the group, e.g. by asking relevant questions about things where the group has a consensus that status quo is not very clear nor easy to understand - and in general asking questions, making comments or producing materials that benefit the group.
or that:
2. You are aware that you are climbing a learning curve in order to become efficient within this group at a later time. In this case you could have a very difficult time ahead of you, because software projects in general today, and open source projects in particular, tend to be fairly advanced, and unless you are also very advanced then there's a knowledge gap.
*You* have to work hard to bridge that gap - other project members have *NO* obligation whatsoever to hold your hand, unless you would happen to hire someone of them as your teacher.
Please read the license for coreboot. There is no promise of education.
With open source projects it's pretty common that someone in the project can offer you commercial training, and I think that's a fantastic way to learn efficiently if you have the budget, but not everyone does.
It's also common that people are willing to answer questions about the project, maybe in particular about parts which are admittedly difficult to understand or those which may not be documented so well. Please remember that this is a luxury. If your attitude really is to assume from-zero-to-contributor-education from every project then you will definately be disappointed quite frequently! Again; it's important to educate yourself and ask the right questions. If you can not, then maybe it's a good idea to first pursue another project with fewer unknowns, and return later.
I'll try to answer what I guess your question is about:
The coreboot build system can use the toolchain in your system, but our experience is that it usually does not work. Many distributions have patched the toolchains so that it becomes unusable for building coreboot. (Toolchain crashes, or generates corrupt machine code.)
In order to use a known good toolchain it is recommended that you run util/crossgcc/buildgcc, which builds a GCC toolchain without patches that should work. coreboot should find that toolchain automatically, but I'd recommend running rm -rf build && make menuconfig once, after building the toolchain, to be sure that the build system discovers the new toolchain. (Settings are stored in the .xcompile file. You will already know that this is a hidden file.)
Besides will be the object files in elf format and when they are linked?
Intermediate files are ELF object files, but at the end of the coreboot build process (did you try to run it? did you analyze what steps it actually performs?) a coreboot.rom file is created, which uses the CBFS file format, as suggested by the CBFSTOOL command that concludes the build.
Please spend time to educate yourself about the coreboot build process. It was a little unusual in version 2, but the way things are now you should find it much easier to understand; it is based on the same methods and tools (Kconfig and Makefile) as many other projects.
Is there any possibility for other formats?
No. The coreboot build system always produces a CBFS file.
//Peter
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