Re: [coreboot] for Lenovo G505S owners: AtomBIOS ROMs (discrete too!), binaries, datasheets...
Le dimanche 16 juillet 2017 à 11:10 +0300, Mike Banon a écrit :
Hi Paul, here is my proposed fix for ./origami-ec/tools/segments to make it more portable across the different bash versions :
I think the problem is that you are not using bash in this case. The script has /bin/sh as shebang, but it's really written in bash (with non-POSIX extensions). Given the number of non-POSIX things that I'm using in there, it's probably easier to just switch: #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash
Could you try that and report back?
- replace
if (( $size > $size_limit ))
with
if [ $(printf "%d" ${size}) -gt $(printf "%d" ${size_limit}) ]
- replace
if (( $offset < $map ))
with
if [ $(printf "%d" ${offset}) -lt $(printf "%d" ${map}) ]
After these changes the hexadecimal numbers are converted to decimal before the comparison. Now this script works OK and the whole build completes without any error
I have tested your firmware at my G505S, the LEDs are working ;-) and are changing their state if I press a button.
Cool! You may also want to close and open the lid ;)
Also if you attach the UART to it, you will get a functional console.
Maybe its a good idea to launch this project publicly by creating a mirror at GitHub, so that the people could easily commit the pull requests and send their comments - and then the merged pull requests could be synchronized with your home repository at git.code.paulk.fr ? What do you think about this idea?
I already have very specific plans about launching the project publicly (that do not involve using github). I am working hard on that. In order to drag some interest in the project at the time it is launched, I would ask that you don't spread big news about it yet. I'd really like to keep it semi-public for now.
Also I strongly prefer to do code review via dedicated mailing lists, with text patches instead of web interfaces (that really do not fit well with my workflow).
Thanks for your suggestions and interest in the project!
Cheers,
Paul
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Paul Kocialkowski contact@paulk.fr wrote:
Hey,
Le samedi 15 juillet 2017 à 16:53 +0300, Mike Banon a écrit :
Dear Damien, thank you for your interest!
These repositories are not raising G505S free-as-in-freedom level, just trying to improve the things: e.g. make a discrete GPU working and erase serial IDs from EC KB9012 proprietary firmware. To clarify:
- g505s-atombios : contains the AtomBIOS ROMs for discrete GPU of
G505S. AFAIK nobody has successfully extracted these discrete ROMs before! If your G505S had integrated GPU only you couldn't benefited from them, but my G505S has a discrete GPU also - which does not work with coreboot. And I really hope that having two AtomBIOS ROMs inside coreboot.rom (integrated + discrete, e.g. both pci1002,990b.rom and pci1002,6663.rom ) will help me to make this discrete GPU working. Going to test it soon :D
- g505s-proprietary : contains the motherboard's LA-A091P and EC
KB9012 keyboard controller datasheets, and Lenovo's Hardware Maintenance Manual (sometimes helps to find the replacement parts, such as the new screws) Of course many of us already had these files, but it also contains a clean EC KB9012 ROM - extracted directly from BIOS updating software! Compared to what is flashed at G505S by default, this clean ROM doesn't have any IDs, therefore flashing it slightly improves your anonymity
It would be good to get this chipset working with Timothy's non-AGESA ram init, which I was working on at an earlier time but got stuck and ran out of time.
Please tell, have you uploaded your unfinished work somewhere?
I believe the EC has been done too by Paul
Thank you very much for this information! Do you know whether it has been 100% completed and G505S boots with it, by a chance?
http://git.code.paulk.fr/gitweb/?p=origami-ec.git;a=summary
I am getting a few problems while trying to build:
tools/segments: 19: tools/segments: 0x000016A4: not found tools/segments: 19: tools/segments: 0x00000C2C: not found tools/segments: 19: tools/segments: 0x00000E07: not found tools/segments: 69: tools/segments: cannot open 0x0000: No such file tools/segments: 69: tools/segments: 0: not found tools/segments: 69: tools/segments: 49152: not found tools/segments: 69: tools/segments: cannot open 0x10000: No such file tools/segments: 69: tools/segments: 65536: not found
Perhaps the tools/segments bash script is not portable enough, I will try to fix it and contribute a solution in the near future
To answer the question, no, it is not finished. Far from it. There is very little visibility regarding the project as it was not launched publicly yet (even though the source code I'm working on is already available).
Too bad that the script does not work with your setup, reasonable fixes to make it work would indeed be welcome! It works fine on my setup.
the only thing remaining apart from the hardest part (ram init) would be the vga init, (which Alex already did 95% for this particular hardware)
Curious to hear about Alex's open source VGA init. Most likely it has been written with integrated-only GPU in the mind, but if it will become the last obstacle before fully liberating G505S --> then I could try to complete it
I no longer have the laptop hardware with me so this is going to be problematic for me to do much work on it in the near future.
Its very sad to hear. G505S is the most powerful portable coreboot hardware without Intel ME / PSP backdoors, and I hope that more of these wonderful laptops will end up at the hands of opensource/privacy-caring people
Luckily this laptop's default thermal paste is of very poor quality, and when it starts easily overheating after a couple of years - a lot of people are simply selling it instead of changing its' thermal paste! Partially because of that, partially because a lot of G505S have been manufactured, it is easy to find this laptop at eBay/craigslist for a very cheap price!
For example, just $100 dollars:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-G505s-20255-AMD-A10-6gb-Ram-No-Hdd- Part s-Repair-/332298782671
If I were at USA I would have definitely bought, need just $59 to refurbish
- 8cells battery, more capacity than original! $33 -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/8-Cell-Battery-for-Lenovo-IdeaPad- G400 s-G405s-G505s-G410s-G510s-S410p-S510p-Z710-L12L4A02- L12M4A02/32819127987.html
- replacement keyboard, $12 -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-US-keyboard-for-leno vo-I deapad-G505S-FLEX-15-G500S-S500-Z510-US-laptop- keyboard/1945098518.html
- bottom cover, $14 -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-For-Lenovo-G500S-G505S-Bottom- RAM- HDD-Hard-Drive-Cover-Door-balck/32819067218.html
- new thermal paste and some 100% alcohol for disinfection,
then could put SSD and 16 GB of RAM there for a beast machine ;)
I'm not sure if you are allowed to redistribute proprietary roms/datasheets
It depends on your location - different countries have different laws. At my place I am allowed to use and even distribute them for not- commercial purposes (e.g. reverse engineering or just a hobby), at some other places the people are allowed to download these files but aren't allowed to share
Sadly some countries have very strict copyright laws, e.g. at USA I would have had to wait 75 years :P Many (if not all) GitHub servers are at USA jurisdiction, but they can't sue me - only to take down my repositories, which I could easily re-upload to GitHub again or to somewhere else...
However, these datasheets have been at GitHub for almost a year ( https://github.com/mikebdp2/kb9012-g505s-official ) and still available!
Probably because these datasheets aren't like a game or a movie (when the manufacturer is losing money if someone else is distributing it) in reality - nobody cares if you are distributing them. Multiple times I have honestly tried to contact both Compal and ENE asking them if they don't mind me sharing the datasheets, but they have never replied to me
Good luck to your projects, Mike Banon
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Damien Zammit <damien@zamaudio.co m> wrote:
Dear Mike,
I am not sure what this is all about, but we already ported the G505s to coreboot. I believe the EC has been done too by Paul, so the only thing remaining apart from the hardest part (ram init) would be the vga init, (which Alex already did 95% for this particular hardware). I no longer have the laptop hardware with me so this is going to be problematic for me to do much work on it in the near future.
By the way, I'm not sure if you are allowed to redistribute proprietary roms/datasheets, but IANAL.
I wish you luck,
Damien
On 15/07/17 07:48, Mike Banon wrote:
Good day! Together with my friend Ivan we have opened a new GitHub page,
https://github.com/g505s-opensource-researcher
and created 3 repositories there:
- g505s-atombios
AMD AtomBIOS video bios releases for G505S Integrated HD-8650G and discrete HD-8570M / R5-M230 GPUs
- g505s-proprietary
Proprietary stuff: InsydeH20 closed source BIOS files, documents, binaries and datasheets for G505S
Their files were described at our previous messages:
https://mail.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2017-July/084660. html https://mail.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2017-July/084671. html https://mail.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2017-June/084569. html
All the SHA-256 checksums are available at sha256sum.txt text files
Also, we are going to set up 3) a bit later:
- g505s-coreboot
coreboot open source BIOS releases for AMD-based Lenovo G505S laptop with A10-5750M quad core APU
"3)" could be especially useful for the people who just recently became interested at coreboot/SeaBIOS projects - and would like to quickly test on their G505S laptop because of the official BIOS shortcomings (WiFi whitelist / poor thermal management)
By the way, there were two typos at Ivan's cbfstool.sh script
two missing "" characters at the end of line. g505s-atombios repository has a working version
Have the great weekends and happy hacking ;-)
Wish you all the best, Mike Banon
-- Paul Kocialkowski,
developer of free digital technology and hardware support.
Website: https://www.paulk.fr/ Coding blog: https://code.paulk.fr/ Git repositories: https://git.paulk.fr/ https://git.code.paulk.fr/
Replacing #!/bin/sh with #!/bin/bash also works! Although maybe its a good idea to still do this hex-to-dec numbers conversion if it results in more portable code
Cool! You may also want to close and open the lid ;)
Its hard to open/close lid at half teardown G505S so I just cheated by reading the source code to find out what happens ;)
... I'd really like to keep it semi-public for now
OK, understood
Also if you attach the UART to it, you will get a functional console
Could you please tell which USB-to-UART adapter you are using while connecting to JP3 port ? And what is your connectivity diagram: are you connecting just 2 and 3 wires (EC_TX and EC_RX) or 1 and 4 also ( +3VALW and GND ) ?
I'm going to get 10 pcs of 4P FPC connectors (such as these for $1 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cloukeu-10Pcs-FPC-Connector-socket-FFC-1-0MM... ) to solder one of them to JP3 UART port - just in case I couldn't get UART from a port of MiniPCI-E diagnostic card
Will cut a spare FPC 30P 1.0mm pitch keyboard-like flex cable to get a 4P one. This connection will allow to easily attach/detach the UART without soldering/desoldering it each time ; meanwhile I'll have to use something like a Morse code for these leds :)
Best regards, Mike Banon
On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Paul Kocialkowski contact@paulk.fr wrote:
Le dimanche 16 juillet 2017 à 11:10 +0300, Mike Banon a écrit :
Hi Paul, here is my proposed fix for ./origami-ec/tools/segments to make it more portable across the different bash versions :
I think the problem is that you are not using bash in this case. The script has /bin/sh as shebang, but it's really written in bash (with non-POSIX extensions). Given the number of non-POSIX things that I'm using in there, it's probably easier to just switch: #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash
Could you try that and report back?
- replace
if (( $size > $size_limit ))
with
if [ $(printf "%d" ${size}) -gt $(printf "%d" ${size_limit}) ]
- replace
if (( $offset < $map ))
with
if [ $(printf "%d" ${offset}) -lt $(printf "%d" ${map}) ]
After these changes the hexadecimal numbers are converted to decimal before the comparison. Now this script works OK and the whole build completes without any error
I have tested your firmware at my G505S, the LEDs are working ;-) and are changing their state if I press a button.
Cool! You may also want to close and open the lid ;)
Also if you attach the UART to it, you will get a functional console.
Maybe its a good idea to launch this project publicly by creating a mirror at GitHub, so that the people could easily commit the pull requests and send their comments - and then the merged pull requests could be synchronized with your home repository at git.code.paulk.fr ? What do you think about this idea?
I already have very specific plans about launching the project publicly (that do not involve using github). I am working hard on that. In order to drag some interest in the project at the time it is launched, I would ask that you don't spread big news about it yet. I'd really like to keep it semi-public for now.
Also I strongly prefer to do code review via dedicated mailing lists, with text patches instead of web interfaces (that really do not fit well with my workflow).
Thanks for your suggestions and interest in the project!
Cheers,
Paul
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Paul Kocialkowski contact@paulk.fr wrote:
Hey,
Le samedi 15 juillet 2017 à 16:53 +0300, Mike Banon a écrit :
Dear Damien, thank you for your interest!
These repositories are not raising G505S free-as-in-freedom level, just trying to improve the things: e.g. make a discrete GPU working and erase serial IDs from EC KB9012 proprietary firmware. To clarify:
- g505s-atombios : contains the AtomBIOS ROMs for discrete GPU of
G505S. AFAIK nobody has successfully extracted these discrete ROMs before! If your G505S had integrated GPU only you couldn't benefited from them, but my G505S has a discrete GPU also - which does not work with coreboot. And I really hope that having two AtomBIOS ROMs inside coreboot.rom (integrated + discrete, e.g. both pci1002,990b.rom and pci1002,6663.rom ) will help me to make this discrete GPU working. Going to test it soon :D
- g505s-proprietary : contains the motherboard's LA-A091P and EC
KB9012 keyboard controller datasheets, and Lenovo's Hardware Maintenance Manual (sometimes helps to find the replacement parts, such as the new screws) Of course many of us already had these files, but it also contains a clean EC KB9012 ROM - extracted directly from BIOS updating software! Compared to what is flashed at G505S by default, this clean ROM doesn't have any IDs, therefore flashing it slightly improves your anonymity
It would be good to get this chipset working with Timothy's non-AGESA ram init, which I was working on at an earlier time but got stuck and ran out of time.
Please tell, have you uploaded your unfinished work somewhere?
I believe the EC has been done too by Paul
Thank you very much for this information! Do you know whether it has been 100% completed and G505S boots with it, by a chance?
http://git.code.paulk.fr/gitweb/?p=origami-ec.git;a=summary
I am getting a few problems while trying to build:
tools/segments: 19: tools/segments: 0x000016A4: not found tools/segments: 19: tools/segments: 0x00000C2C: not found tools/segments: 19: tools/segments: 0x00000E07: not found tools/segments: 69: tools/segments: cannot open 0x0000: No such file tools/segments: 69: tools/segments: 0: not found tools/segments: 69: tools/segments: 49152: not found tools/segments: 69: tools/segments: cannot open 0x10000: No such file tools/segments: 69: tools/segments: 65536: not found
Perhaps the tools/segments bash script is not portable enough, I will try to fix it and contribute a solution in the near future
To answer the question, no, it is not finished. Far from it. There is very little visibility regarding the project as it was not launched publicly yet (even though the source code I'm working on is already available).
Too bad that the script does not work with your setup, reasonable fixes to make it work would indeed be welcome! It works fine on my setup.
the only thing remaining apart from the hardest part (ram init) would be the vga init, (which Alex already did 95% for this particular hardware)
Curious to hear about Alex's open source VGA init. Most likely it has been written with integrated-only GPU in the mind, but if it will become the last obstacle before fully liberating G505S --> then I could try to complete it
I no longer have the laptop hardware with me so this is going to be problematic for me to do much work on it in the near future.
Its very sad to hear. G505S is the most powerful portable coreboot hardware without Intel ME / PSP backdoors, and I hope that more of these wonderful laptops will end up at the hands of opensource/privacy-caring people
Luckily this laptop's default thermal paste is of very poor quality, and when it starts easily overheating after a couple of years - a lot of people are simply selling it instead of changing its' thermal paste! Partially because of that, partially because a lot of G505S have been manufactured, it is easy to find this laptop at eBay/craigslist for a very cheap price!
For example, just $100 dollars:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-G505s-20255-AMD-A10-6gb-Ram-No-Hdd- Part s-Repair-/332298782671
If I were at USA I would have definitely bought, need just $59 to refurbish
- 8cells battery, more capacity than original! $33 -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/8-Cell-Battery-for-Lenovo-IdeaPad- G400 s-G405s-G505s-G410s-G510s-S410p-S510p-Z710-L12L4A02- L12M4A02/32819127987.html
- replacement keyboard, $12 -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-US-keyboard-for-leno vo-I deapad-G505S-FLEX-15-G500S-S500-Z510-US-laptop- keyboard/1945098518.html
- bottom cover, $14 -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-For-Lenovo-G500S-G505S-Bottom- RAM- HDD-Hard-Drive-Cover-Door-balck/32819067218.html
- new thermal paste and some 100% alcohol for disinfection,
then could put SSD and 16 GB of RAM there for a beast machine ;)
I'm not sure if you are allowed to redistribute proprietary roms/datasheets
It depends on your location - different countries have different laws. At my place I am allowed to use and even distribute them for not- commercial purposes (e.g. reverse engineering or just a hobby), at some other places the people are allowed to download these files but aren't allowed to share
Sadly some countries have very strict copyright laws, e.g. at USA I would have had to wait 75 years :P Many (if not all) GitHub servers are at USA jurisdiction, but they can't sue me - only to take down my repositories, which I could easily re-upload to GitHub again or to somewhere else...
However, these datasheets have been at GitHub for almost a year ( https://github.com/mikebdp2/kb9012-g505s-official ) and still available!
Probably because these datasheets aren't like a game or a movie (when the manufacturer is losing money if someone else is distributing it) in reality - nobody cares if you are distributing them. Multiple times I have honestly tried to contact both Compal and ENE asking them if they don't mind me sharing the datasheets, but they have never replied to me
Good luck to your projects, Mike Banon
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Damien Zammit <damien@zamaudio.co m> wrote:
Dear Mike,
I am not sure what this is all about, but we already ported the G505s to coreboot. I believe the EC has been done too by Paul, so the only thing remaining apart from the hardest part (ram init) would be the vga init, (which Alex already did 95% for this particular hardware). I no longer have the laptop hardware with me so this is going to be problematic for me to do much work on it in the near future.
By the way, I'm not sure if you are allowed to redistribute proprietary roms/datasheets, but IANAL.
I wish you luck,
Damien
On 15/07/17 07:48, Mike Banon wrote:
Good day! Together with my friend Ivan we have opened a new GitHub page,
https://github.com/g505s-opensource-researcher
and created 3 repositories there:
- g505s-atombios
AMD AtomBIOS video bios releases for G505S Integrated HD-8650G and discrete HD-8570M / R5-M230 GPUs
- g505s-proprietary
Proprietary stuff: InsydeH20 closed source BIOS files, documents, binaries and datasheets for G505S
Their files were described at our previous messages:
https://mail.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2017-July/084660. html https://mail.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2017-July/084671. html https://mail.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2017-June/084569. html
All the SHA-256 checksums are available at sha256sum.txt text files
Also, we are going to set up 3) a bit later:
- g505s-coreboot
coreboot open source BIOS releases for AMD-based Lenovo G505S laptop with A10-5750M quad core APU
"3)" could be especially useful for the people who just recently became interested at coreboot/SeaBIOS projects - and would like to quickly test on their G505S laptop because of the official BIOS shortcomings (WiFi whitelist / poor thermal management)
By the way, there were two typos at Ivan's cbfstool.sh script
two missing "" characters at the end of line. g505s-atombios repository has a working version
Have the great weekends and happy hacking ;-)
Wish you all the best, Mike Banon
-- Paul Kocialkowski,
developer of free digital technology and hardware support.
Website: https://www.paulk.fr/ Coding blog: https://code.paulk.fr/ Git repositories: https://git.paulk.fr/ https://git.code.paulk.fr/
-- Paul Kocialkowski,
developer of free digital technology and hardware support.
Website: https://www.paulk.fr/ Coding blog: https://code.paulk.fr/ Git repositories: https://git.paulk.fr/ https://git.code.paulk.fr/
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