[LinuxBIOS] ADLO status? Plan 9?

[Uwe Hermann]

Hi,

what's the current status of ADLO? Is it still maintained? Where?
I can't find it in the LinuxBIOSv2 tree, but it's still in
theLinuxBIOSv1 repository. Is there any upstream website?
http://www.missl.cs.umd.edu/sebos_phase2.html doesn't seem to be
up-to-date, and I cannot find any code there.

What does actually work with current ADLO? Does it boot

* Windows XP?
 * Windows 2000?
 * OpenBSD?
 * (Free)DOS?
 * anything else?

Also, can LinuxBIOS currently boot Plan 9 out of the box? All of the
above information should go on the main wiki page...
Any other systems, OSes, whatnot, which are supported by LinuxBIOS, but
not yet listed in the wiki?

Uwe.

[yhlu]

windows 2000 and openBSD should be ok.

but windows XP may need more ACPI support.

Only need to add some code into  LinuxBIOS to put e820 info in the
CMOS before load ADLO...

YH

On 10/14/06, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what's the current status of ADLO? Is it still maintained? Where?
> I can't find it in the LinuxBIOSv2 tree, but it's still in
> the��LinuxBIOSv1 repository. Is there any upstream website?
> http://www.missl.cs.umd.edu/sebos_phase2.html doesn't seem to be
> up-to-date, and I cannot find any code there.
>
> What does actually work with current ADLO? Does it boot
> Windows XP?
> Windows 2000?
> OpenBSD?
> (Free)DOS?
> anything else?
>
> Also, can LinuxBIOS currently boot Plan 9 out of the box? All of the
> above information should go on the main wiki page...
> Any other systems, OSes, whatnot, which are supported by LinuxBIOS, but
> not yet listed in the wiki?
> Uwe.
>
> Uwe Hermann
> http://www.hermann-uwe.de
> http://www.it-services-uh.de  | http://www.crazy-hacks.org
> http://www.holsham-traders.de | http://www.unmaintained-free-software.org
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[Stefan Reinauer]

* yhlu  [061014 23:37]:
> windows 2000 and openBSD should be ok.
>
> but windows XP may need more ACPI support.
>
> Only need to add some code into  LinuxBIOS to put e820 info in the
> CMOS before load ADLO...

Isnt LB Table a better place for that?
> YH
>
> On 10/14/06, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > what's the current status of ADLO? Is it still maintained? Where?
> > I can't find it in the LinuxBIOSv2 tree, but it's still in
> > the??LinuxBIOSv1 repository. Is there any upstream website?
> > http://www.missl.cs.umd.edu/sebos_phase2.html doesn't seem to be
> > up-to-date, and I cannot find any code there.
> >
> > What does actually work with current ADLO? Does it boot
> > Windows XP?
> > Windows 2000?
> > OpenBSD?
> > (Free)DOS?
> > anything else?
> >
> > Also, can LinuxBIOS currently boot Plan 9 out of the box? All of the
> > above information should go on the main wiki page...
> > Any other systems, OSes, whatnot, which are supported by LinuxBIOS, but
> > not yet listed in the wiki?
> > Uwe.
> >
> > Uwe Hermann
> > http://www.hermann-uwe.de
> > http://www.it-services-uh.de  | http://www.crazy-hacks.org
> > http://www.holsham-traders.de | http://www.unmaintained-free-software.org
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[yhlu]

then you need add some asm code in ADLO to analyze the table...

YH

On 10/14/06, Stefan Reinauer  wrote:
> yhlu  [061014 23:37]:
> > windows 2000 and openBSD should be ok.
> >
> > but windows XP may need more ACPI support.
> >
> > Only need to add some code into  LinuxBIOS to put e820 info in the
> > CMOS before load ADLO...
>
> Isnt LB Table a better place for that?
> > YH
> >
> > On 10/14/06, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > what's the current status of ADLO? Is it still maintained? Where?
> > > I can't find it in the LinuxBIOSv2 tree, but it's still in
> > > the??LinuxBIOSv1 repository. Is there any upstream website?
> > > http://www.missl.cs.umd.edu/sebos_phase2.html doesn't seem to be
> > > up-to-date, and I cannot find any code there.
> > >
> > > What does actually work with current ADLO? Does it boot
> > > Windows XP?
> > > Windows 2000?
> > > OpenBSD?
> > > (Free)DOS?
> > > anything else?
> > >
> > > Also, can LinuxBIOS currently boot Plan 9 out of the box? All of the
> > > above information should go on the main wiki page...
> > > Any other systems, OSes, whatnot, which are supported by LinuxBIOS, but
> > > not yet listed in the wiki?
> > > Uwe.
> > >
> > > Uwe Hermann
> > > http://www.hermann-uwe.de
> > > http://www.it-services-uh.de  | http://www.crazy-hacks.org
> > > http://www.holsham-traders.de | http://www.unmaintained-free-software.org
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[Stefan Reinauer]

* yhlu  [061014 23:47]:
> then you need add some asm code in ADLO to analyze the table...
>
> YH

Or jump into some C function to do the deeds. Not too complicated,
especially since this function would not require any parameters
and only a small stack.

Writing Assembler code sucks. ;-)
> On 10/14/06, Stefan Reinauer  wrote:
> > yhlu  [061014 23:37]:
> > > windows 2000 and openBSD should be ok.
> > >
> > > but windows XP may need more ACPI support.
> > >
> > > Only need to add some code into  LinuxBIOS to put e820 info in the
> > > CMOS before load ADLO...
> >
> > Isnt LB Table a better place for that?
> > > YH
> > >
> > > On 10/14/06, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > what's the current status of ADLO? Is it still maintained? Where?
> > > > I can't find it in the LinuxBIOSv2 tree, but it's still in
> > > > the??LinuxBIOSv1 repository. Is there any upstream website?
> > > > http://www.missl.cs.umd.edu/sebos_phase2.html doesn't seem to be
> > > > up-to-date, and I cannot find any code there.
> > > >
> > > > What does actually work with current ADLO? Does it boot
> > > > Windows XP?
> > > > Windows 2000?
> > > > OpenBSD?
> > > > (Free)DOS?
> > > > anything else?
> > > >
> > > > Also, can LinuxBIOS currently boot Plan 9 out of the box? All of the
> > > > above information should go on the main wiki page...
> > > > Any other systems, OSes, whatnot, which are supported by LinuxBIOS, but
> > > > not yet listed in the wiki?
> > > > Uwe.
> > > >
> > > > Uwe Hermann
> > > > http://www.hermann-uwe.de
> > > > http://www.it-services-uh.de  | http://www.crazy-hacks.org
> > > > http://www.holsham-traders.de |
> >
> > http://www.unmaintained-free-software.org
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[yhlu]

last time I test it on serengeti_cheetah...

it seem the IDE code in ADLO bochs, can not find IDE disk of AMD8131.

then i built one image for xen as virstual firmare, it could use
virtual IDE disk...
and it likes QEMU's too.

So the Bochs IDE part need to be checked for modern IDE chipset.

I remeber it works well with one Intel based Tyan MB..(s2721?)

YH

On 10/14/06, yhlu  wrote:
> windows 2000 and openBSD should be ok.
>
> but windows XP may need more ACPI support.
>
> Only need to add some code into  LinuxBIOS to put e820 info in the
> CMOS before load ADLO...
>
> YH
>
> On 10/14/06, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > what's the current status of ADLO? Is it still maintained? Where?
> > I can't find it in the LinuxBIOSv2 tree, but it's still in
> > the��LinuxBIOSv1 repository. Is there any upstream website?
> > http://www.missl.cs.umd.edu/sebos_phase2.html doesn't seem to be
> > up-to-date, and I cannot find any code there.
> >
> > What does actually work with current ADLO? Does it boot
> > Windows XP?
> > Windows 2000?
> > OpenBSD?
> > (Free)DOS?
> > anything else?
> >
> > Also, can LinuxBIOS currently boot Plan 9 out of the box? All of the
> > above information should go on the main wiki page...
> > Any other systems, OSes, whatnot, which are supported by LinuxBIOS, but
> > not yet listed in the wiki?
> > Uwe.
> >
> > Uwe Hermann
> > http://www.hermann-uwe.de
> > http://www.it-services-uh.de  | http://www.crazy-hacks.org
> > http://www.holsham-traders.de | http://www.unmaintained-free-software.org
> >
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[Stefan Reinauer]

* yhlu  [061014 23:45]:
> last time I test it on serengeti_cheetah...
>
> it seem the IDE code in ADLO bochs, can not find IDE disk of AMD8131.
>
> then i built one image for xen as virstual firmare, it could use
> virtual IDE disk...
> and it likes QEMU's too.
>
> So the Bochs IDE part need to be checked for modern IDE chipset.

Is it the usual "not looking on busses !=0" problem, or is there more to
it?

[yhlu]

IDE controller is on bus 0.

YH

On 10/14/06, Stefan Reinauer  wrote:
> yhlu  [061014 23:45]:
> > last time I test it on serengeti_cheetah...
> >
> > it seem the IDE code in ADLO bochs, can not find IDE disk of AMD8131.
> >
> > then i built one image for xen as virstual firmare, it could use
> > virtual IDE disk...
> > and it likes QEMU's too.
> >
> > So the Bochs IDE part need to be checked for modern IDE chipset.
>
> Is it the usual "not looking on busses !=0" problem, or is there more to
> it?

[ron minnich]

Uwe, thanks again for your diligence. This is really improving our web
presence!

On 10/14/06, Uwe Hermann  wrote:
> Also, can LinuxBIOS currently boot Plan 9 out of the box? All of the
> above information should go on the main wiki page...

we have a 128+ node cluster here at LANL call Glenda which boots Plan 9 from
IDE-FLASH via LinuxBIOS. It works wonderfully well, and, of course, Plan 9
boots really fast (faster than Linux) in this environment.

ron

[Uwe Hermann]

Hi,

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 03:37:46PM -0600, ron minnich wrote:
> we have a 128+ node cluster here at LANL call Glenda which boots Plan 9 from
> IDE-FLASH via LinuxBIOS. It works wonderfully well, and, of course, Plan 9
> boots really fast (faster than Linux) in this environment.

Just curious-- does it boot directly into Plan 9 or via FILO or
something similar?

If you have some build tutorials, docs, photos please upload them to the
wiki, that's definately a nice usecase...

Uwe.

[Stefan Reinauer]

* Uwe Hermann  [061014 23:24]:
> what's the current status of ADLO? Is it still maintained? Where?
> I can't find it in the LinuxBIOSv2 tree, but it's still in
> theLinuxBIOSv1 repository. Is there any upstream website?
> http://www.missl.cs.umd.edu/sebos_phase2.html doesn't seem to be
> up-to-date, and I cannot find any code there.

We should maintain a page in the Wiki for it. It needs quite a bit
brush up.

The information on how to enable/disable the A/B/C/D/E/F segment memory
needs to go to LinuxBIOS, otherwise we have to change ADLO for each
mainboard. I suggest packing something into the LB table is a good place
for this.. Any takers? ;-)
> What does actually work with current ADLO? Does it boot
> Windows XP?
> Windows 2000?
> OpenBSD?
> (Free)DOS?
> anything else?

It is using bochs bios (a too old version maybe) so theoretically it
should be able to boot everything that bochs/qemu can boot as well.

Windows 2000 was proven to work. Dont know about others...

Stefan