On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 05:13:10PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
Has anyone here got a link describing or including the fix, either directly from Intel, or from an OEM?
Intel just posted one:
https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00075&l...
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On 05/01/2017 03:32 PM, Trammell Hudson wrote:
On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 05:13:10PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
Has anyone here got a link describing or including the fix, either directly from Intel, or from an OEM?
Intel just posted one:
https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00075&l...
So it's confirmed then. Our decision to avoid ME-enabled systems even at higher cost was just validated...
As an unofficial poll, if POWER server hardware were ever to come down in price to more reasonable levels, would you consider switching given the vulnerabilities in Intel hardware? Similarly, on the consumer side would you consider switching to ARM or is x86 gaming / <insert closed source application here> too important?
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On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:43 PM Timothy Pearson < tpearson@raptorengineering.com> wrote:
As an unofficial poll, if POWER server hardware were ever to come down in price to more reasonable levels, would you consider switching given the vulnerabilities in Intel hardware?
In many places I think the answer would be yes. Sadly, in a lot of places the answer would still be "sure, what version of windows does this 'POWER' thing run?"
I only wish I were joking.
ron
Once my opteron systems are no good anymore my next computer purchases will be POWER and ARM for sure, I refuse to buy insecure intel/new amd garbage.
POWER is reasonably priced for what you get, it simply isn't meant for the entry level server market for 10K you're getting comparable power (and better security) to an intel/amd system.
Tim: Can you play games on POWER with the VM emulation layer you guys were talking about with TALOS?
What do you think about the desktop/server ARM boards such as the MP30 from Gigabyte?
On 05/01/2017 11:44 PM, Taiidan@gmx.com wrote:
Once my opteron systems are no good anymore my next computer purchases will be POWER and ARM for sure, I refuse to buy insecure intel/new amd garbage.
POWER is reasonably priced for what you get, it simply isn't meant for the entry level server market for 10K you're getting comparable power (and better security) to an intel/amd system.
Tim: Can you play games on POWER with the VM emulation layer you guys were talking about with TALOS?
What do you think about the desktop/server ARM boards such as the MP30 from Gigabyte?
what kind of performance can be expected from RiscV ?
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 2:54 PM Raphael Jacquot sxpert@sxpert.org wrote:
what kind of performance can be expected from RiscV ?
Performance is not the issue. The issue is when it will be ready, and in a laptop you like, and the answer is "not for a while".
Further, while the RISCV instruction set and architecture are open source, that really doesn't imply that things such as SMM can't be implemented on them. RISC-V M mode will allow such things in fact. I failed to convince the RISCV community that M-mode code should be part of the kernel, in the hopes of making it impossible to have something like SMM. I failed.
Don't assume, just because the instruction set is open source, that all the problems go away. They don't. System vendors can still do a lot.
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