[PATCH]es to get normal image to work again with CBFS

[Patrick Georgi]

Hi,

as promised, here's a follow-up to my mail from 2009-05-31. The patch 
from back then (also reproduced here) breaks CBFS using boards, as 
switching to CBFS requires some more changes now. The benefit is that 
the normal image works again, which was broken with CBFS so far. The 
patches here fix the breakage for the already transitioned boards.

20090531-use-coreboot.rom-for-cbfs: Change the CBFS build process to use 
coreboot.rom instead of coreboot.strip, which fixes the calculation of 
the entry point of the normal image. (same patch as in the old mail, and 
Acked by myles)

20090605-3-fix-abuild-of-m2v-mx-se-with-crosscompiler: Properly use 
CROSS_COMPILE, so abuild uses i386-elf-gcc as compiler if it needs to.

20090605-4-move-CONFIG_CBFS-to-Options-lb: hp/dl145_g3 defined 
CONFIG_CBFS in the targets/* files, move to Options.lb like for every 
other CBFS-using board

20090605-5-fix-via-vt8454c: Fix up via/vt8454c after the 20090531 patch
20090605-6-fix-kontron-986lcd-m: Likewise for kontron/986lcd-m
20090605-7-fix-emulation-qemu-x86: Likewise for emulation/qemu-x86
20090605-8-fix-hp-dl145-g3: Likewise for hp/dl145_g3

The 20090605-[5678]-* patches give some indication on how to switch a 
board over to CBFS support. It's not as easy as without the 20090531 
patch, but at least it works correctly then:

For targets that use the src/config/*calculation.lb files, it's quite easy:
1. define FALLBACK_SIZE to ROM_IMAGE_SIZE (both normal and fallback are 
of that size now, that kludge can be dropped after non-CBFS is dropped)

2. drop most size definitions from the targets/*/*/Config*lb, except 
ROM_SIZE (the total size of the image)

3. ROM_IMAGE_SIZE must be set to the intended size of the up-to-raminit 
stage of coreboot (coreboot_ram is loaded from CBFS).
Usually, 64kb is enough, and choosing smaller values only makes 
configuring the XIP range harder.

For boards with coreboot_apc image (AMD stuff mostly), you also have to 
remove "ldscript /arch/i386/init/ldscript_apc.lb" from the mainboard's 
Config.lb (not shown in this patch set, as none of these boards uses 
it). coreboot_apc also resides in CBFS now, so this link hack in not 
required anymore.

With this, I think CBFS has no regressions over the old style rom image 
layout anymore, so moving everything over to using CBFS would be a nice 
next step, as lots of stuff in the build system could disappear after that.


Regards,
Patrick

Index: src/config/nofailovercalculation.lb
===================================================================
--- src/config/nofailovercalculation.lb.orig
+++ src/config/nofailovercalculation.lb
@@ -6,8 +6,13 @@ if USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE
 	default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = FALLBACK_SIZE
 	default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE )
 else
-	default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE )
-	default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = 0
+	if CONFIG_CBFS
+		default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = FALLBACK_SIZE
+		default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE )
+	else
+		default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE )
+		default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = 0
+	end
 end
 
 ##
Index: src/config/failovercalculation.lb
===================================================================
--- src/config/failovercalculation.lb.orig
+++ src/config/failovercalculation.lb
@@ -10,8 +10,13 @@ else
 	default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = FALLBACK_SIZE
 	default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE - FAILOVER_SIZE )
     else
-	default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE - FAILOVER_SIZE )
-	default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = 0
+	if CONFIG_CBFS
+		default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = FALLBACK_SIZE
+		default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE - FAILOVER_SIZE )
+	else
+		default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE - FAILOVER_SIZE )
+		default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = 0
+	end
     end
 end
 
Index: src/config/nofailovercalculation128.lb
===================================================================
--- src/config/nofailovercalculation128.lb.orig
+++ src/config/nofailovercalculation128.lb
@@ -6,8 +6,13 @@ if USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE
 	default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = FALLBACK_SIZE
 	default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE )
 else
-	default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE )
-	default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = 0
+	if CONFIG_CBFS
+		default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = FALLBACK_SIZE
+		default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE )
+	else
+		default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = ( ROM_SIZE - FALLBACK_SIZE )
+		default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = 0
+	end
 end
 
 ##
Index: util/newconfig/config.g
===================================================================
--- util/newconfig/config.g.orig
+++ util/newconfig/config.g
@@ -2293,7 +2293,7 @@ def writemakefile(path):
 		# build the bootblock here.
 		file.write("\n\tcat")
 		for j in i.roms:
-			file.write(" %s/coreboot.strip " % j)
+			file.write(" %s/coreboot.rom " % j)
 		file.write("> %s.bootblock\n\n" %i.name)
 		file.write("\t./cbfstool %s create %s %s %s.bootblock\n"
 			   %(i.name, romsize, bootblocksize, i.name))

Index: targets/asus/m2v-mx_se/Config-abuild.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/asus/m2v-mx_se/Config-abuild.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ targets/asus/m2v-mx_se/Config-abuild.lb	(working copy)
@@ -20,6 +20,10 @@
 target asus_m2v-mx_se
 mainboard asus/m2v-mx_se
 
+option CC="CROSSCC"
+option CROSS_COMPILE="CROSS_PREFIX"
+option HOSTCC="CROSS_HOSTCC"
+
 ## ROM_SIZE is the total number of bytes allocated for coreboot use
 ## (normal AND fallback images and payloads).
 

Index: src/mainboard/hp/dl145_g3/Options.lb
===================================================================
--- src/mainboard/hp/dl145_g3/Options.lb.orig
+++ src/mainboard/hp/dl145_g3/Options.lb
@@ -329,5 +329,9 @@ default  MAXIMUM_CONSOLE_LOGLEVEL=8
 ## Select power on after power fail setting
 default MAINBOARD_POWER_ON_AFTER_POWER_FAIL="MAINBOARD_POWER_ON"
 
+##
+## CBFS
+default CONFIG_CBFS=1
+
 ### End Options.lb
 end
Index: targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config-abuild.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config-abuild.lb.orig
+++ targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config-abuild.lb
@@ -13,8 +13,6 @@ __LOGLEVEL__
 option ROM_SIZE=1024*(1024-32)
 option FALLBACK_SIZE=1024*512
 
-option CONFIG_CBFS = 1
-
 romimage "fallback" 
 	option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=1
 	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x20000
Index: targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config.lb.orig
+++ targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config.lb
@@ -25,7 +25,6 @@ target dl145_g3
 mainboard hp/dl145_g3
 
 option ROM_SIZE= 1024*1024
-option CONFIG_CBFS = 1
 
 romimage "fallback"
 	option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=1

Index: src/mainboard/via/vt8454c/Options.lb
===================================================================
--- src/mainboard/via/vt8454c/Options.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ src/mainboard/via/vt8454c/Options.lb	(working copy)
@@ -158,7 +158,7 @@
 
 ## ROM_IMAGE_SIZE is the amount of space to allow linuxBIOS to occupy.
 default ROM_IMAGE_SIZE = 65536
-default FALLBACK_SIZE = 131072
+default FALLBACK_SIZE = ROM_IMAGE_SIZE
 
 ##
 ## Use a small 8K stack
Index: targets/via/vt8454c/Config-abuild.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/via/vt8454c/Config-abuild.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ targets/via/vt8454c/Config-abuild.lb	(working copy)
@@ -29,14 +29,12 @@
 option HOSTCC="CROSS_HOSTCC"
 
 option ROM_SIZE=512*1024
-option FALLBACK_SIZE=512*1024
 
 __COMPRESSION__
 __LOGLEVEL__
 
 romimage "fallback" 
 	option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=1
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x15000
 	option COREBOOT_EXTRA_VERSION=".0-fallback"
 	payload __PAYLOAD__
 end
Index: targets/via/vt8454c/Config.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/via/vt8454c/Config.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ targets/via/vt8454c/Config.lb	(working copy)
@@ -30,14 +30,12 @@
 
 romimage "normal"
 	option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=0
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x14000
 	option COREBOOT_EXTRA_VERSION=".0-normal"
 	payload $(HOME)/payload.elf
 end
 
 romimage "fallback" 
 	option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=1
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x14000
 	option COREBOOT_EXTRA_VERSION=".0-fallback"
 	payload $(HOME)/payload.elf
 end

Index: src/mainboard/kontron/986lcd-m/Options.lb
===================================================================
--- src/mainboard/kontron/986lcd-m/Options.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ src/mainboard/kontron/986lcd-m/Options.lb	(working copy)
@@ -249,7 +249,7 @@
 ### Compute the location and size of where this firmware image
 ### (coreboot plus bootloader) will live in the boot rom chip.
 ###
-default FALLBACK_SIZE=131072
+default FALLBACK_SIZE=ROM_IMAGE_SIZE
 
 ##
 ## coreboot C code runs at this location in RAM
Index: targets/kontron/986lcd-m/Config-abuild.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/kontron/986lcd-m/Config-abuild.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ targets/kontron/986lcd-m/Config-abuild.lb	(working copy)
@@ -11,18 +11,15 @@
 __LOGLEVEL__
 
 option ROM_SIZE=1024*1024
-option FALLBACK_SIZE=1024*64
 
 romimage "normal"
 	option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=0
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x10000
 	option COREBOOT_EXTRA_VERSION=".0-normal"
 	payload __PAYLOAD__
 end
 
 romimage "fallback" 
 	option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=1
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x10000
 	option COREBOOT_EXTRA_VERSION=".0-fallback"
 	payload __PAYLOAD__
 end
Index: targets/kontron/986lcd-m/Config.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/kontron/986lcd-m/Config.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ targets/kontron/986lcd-m/Config.lb	(working copy)
@@ -5,20 +5,8 @@
 ## (normal AND fallback images and payloads).
 option ROM_SIZE = 1024 * 1024
 
-# Use this line instead if you want to use onboard VGA:
-# option ROM_SIZE = (1024 * 1024) - (64 * 1024)
-
-## ROM_IMAGE_SIZE is the maximum number of bytes allowed for a coreboot image,
-## not including any payload.
-option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE = 128 * 1024
-
-## FALLBACK_SIZE is the amount of the ROM the complete fallback image 
-## (including payload) will use.
-option FALLBACK_SIZE = ROM_SIZE
-
 romimage "fallback"
 	option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE = 1
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE = 144 * 1024
 	payload ../payload.elf
 end
 

Index: src/mainboard/emulation/qemu-x86/Config.lb
===================================================================
--- src/mainboard/emulation/qemu-x86/Config.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ src/mainboard/emulation/qemu-x86/Config.lb	(working copy)
@@ -3,14 +3,14 @@
 ## (coreboot plus bootloader) will live in the boot rom chip.
 ##
 default ROM_SIZE = 256 * 1024 
-default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = ROM_SIZE
+default ROM_SECTION_SIZE   = ROM_IMAGE_SIZE
 default ROM_SECTION_OFFSET = 0
 
 ##
 ## Compute the start location and size size of
 ## The coreboot bootloader.
 ##
-default PAYLOAD_SIZE            = ( ROM_SECTION_SIZE - ROM_IMAGE_SIZE )
+default PAYLOAD_SIZE            = ( ROM_SIZE - ROM_IMAGE_SIZE )
 default CONFIG_ROM_PAYLOAD_START = (0xffffffff - ROM_SIZE + ROM_SECTION_OFFSET + 1)
 
 ##
Index: src/mainboard/emulation/qemu-x86/Options.lb
===================================================================
--- src/mainboard/emulation/qemu-x86/Options.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ src/mainboard/emulation/qemu-x86/Options.lb	(working copy)
@@ -100,7 +100,7 @@
 
 ## ROM_IMAGE_SIZE is the amount of space to allow coreboot to occupy.
 default ROM_IMAGE_SIZE = 65536
-default FALLBACK_SIZE = 131072
+default FALLBACK_SIZE = ROM_IMAGE_SIZE
 
 ##
 ## Use a small 8K stack
Index: targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config-abuild.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config-abuild.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config-abuild.lb	(working copy)
@@ -8,11 +8,8 @@
 __COMPRESSION__
 __LOGLEVEL__
 
-option ROM_SIZE=256*1024
-
 romimage "fallback" 
 	option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=1
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x10000
 	option COREBOOT_EXTRA_VERSION=".0"
 	payload __PAYLOAD__
 end
Index: targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config.lb	(working copy)
@@ -11,7 +11,6 @@
 option IRQ_SLOT_COUNT=6
 
 romimage "normal" 
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x10000
 	option COREBOOT_EXTRA_VERSION="-GRUB2"
 #	payload /home/stepan/core.img
 	payload ../payload.elf
Index: targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config-lab.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config-lab.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config-lab.lb	(working copy)
@@ -13,7 +13,6 @@
 option IRQ_SLOT_COUNT=6
 
 romimage "image" 
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x10000
 	option COREBOOT_EXTRA_VERSION="-LAB"
 	payload ../payload.elf.lzma
 end
Index: targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config.OLPC.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config.OLPC.lb	(revision 4340)
+++ targets/emulation/qemu-x86/Config.OLPC.lb	(working copy)
@@ -13,7 +13,6 @@
 option IRQ_SLOT_COUNT=6
 
 romimage "image" 
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x10000
 	option COREBOOT_EXTRA_VERSION="-OpenBIOS"
 	payload /tmp/olpcpayload.elf
 end

Index: src/mainboard/hp/dl145_g3/Options.lb
===================================================================
--- src/mainboard/hp/dl145_g3/Options.lb.orig
+++ src/mainboard/hp/dl145_g3/Options.lb
@@ -121,9 +121,7 @@ default ROM_SIZE=524288
 ##
 ## FALLBACK_SIZE is the amount of the ROM the complete fallback image will use
 ##
-#default FALLBACK_SIZE=131072
-#256K
-default FALLBACK_SIZE=0x40000
+default FALLBACK_SIZE=ROM_IMAGE_SIZE
 
 #more 1M for pgtbl
 default CONFIG_LB_MEM_TOPK=2048
Index: targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config-abuild.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config-abuild.lb.orig
+++ targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config-abuild.lb
@@ -11,11 +11,9 @@ __COMPRESSION__
 __LOGLEVEL__
 
 option ROM_SIZE=1024*(1024-32)
-option FALLBACK_SIZE=1024*512
 
 romimage "fallback" 
 	option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=1
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x20000
 	option XIP_ROM_SIZE=0x20000
 	option COREBOOT_EXTRA_VERSION=".0-fallback"
 	payload __PAYLOAD__
Index: targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config.lb
===================================================================
--- targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config.lb.orig
+++ targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config.lb
@@ -28,7 +28,6 @@ option ROM_SIZE= 1024*1024
 
 romimage "fallback"
 	option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=1
-	option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x20000
 	option XIP_ROM_SIZE=0x20000
 	option COREBOOT_EXTRA_VERSION="$(shell cat ../../VERSION)_Fallback"
 	payload ./bios.bin.elf

[ron minnich]

All acked.

Acked-by: Ronald G. Minnich <[e-mail]>

[Myles Watson]

> 20090605-8-fix-hp-dl145-g3: Likewise for hp/dl145_g3
> This board was fallback only because CBFS didn't work for normal.
> Maybe now is the time to make it have a normal image again?
> Index: targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config-abuild.lb
> ===================================================================
> --- targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config-abuild.lb.orig
> +++ targets/hp/dl145_g3/Config-abuild.lb
> @@ -13,8 +13,6 @@ __LOGLEVEL__
>  option ROM_SIZE=1024*(1024-32)
>  option FALLBACK_SIZE=1024*512
> I think this needs to be updated.
> -option CONFIG_CBFS = 1
> -
>  romimage "fallback"
>        option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=1
>        option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x20000
> Isn't this line supposed to be gone?

Maybe we don't need a separate Config-abuild for the dl145_g3 since
the problem was the ROM_IMAGE_SIZE on the build machine.  Less to keep
correct.

Thanks,
Myles

[Patrick Georgi]

Myles Watson schrieb:
> > -option CONFIG_CBFS = 1
> > -
> >  romimage "fallback"
> >        option USE_FALLBACK_IMAGE=1
> >        option ROM_IMAGE_SIZE=0x20000
>
> Isn't this line supposed to be gone?

There are two patches that affect the HP board: one moves the 
CONFIG_CBFS variable to Options.lb, the other changes the CBFS 
configuration to work with the patch.
> Maybe we don't need a separate Config-abuild for the dl145_g3 since
> the problem was the ROM_IMAGE_SIZE on the build machine.  Less to keep
> correct.

I'll test with that file removed. If that works, I'll do that.


Thanks,
Patrick

[Myles Watson]

> > Isn't this line supposed to be gone?
>
> There are two patches that affect the HP board: one moves the CONFIG_CBFS
> variable to Options.lb, the other changes the CBFS configuration to work
> with the patch.

I was confused by the order in which the patches were inlined in
gmail.  Sorry about that.
> I'll test with that file removed. If that works, I'll do that.
> Great.

Thanks,
Myles

[PATCH]es to get normal image to work again with CBFS

[Uwe Hermann]

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 07:37:26PM +0200, Patrick Georgi wrote:
> The 20090605-[5678]-* patches give some indication on how to switch a  
> board over to CBFS support. It's not as easy as without the 20090531  
> patch, but at least it works correctly then:
>
> For targets that use the src/config/*calculation.lb files, it's quite easy:
> 1. define FALLBACK_SIZE to ROM_IMAGE_SIZE (both normal and fallback are  
> of that size now, that kludge can be dropped after non-CBFS is dropped)
>
> 2. drop most size definitions from the targets/*/*/Config*lb, except  
> ROM_SIZE (the total size of the image)
>
> 3. ROM_IMAGE_SIZE must be set to the intended size of the up-to-raminit  
> stage of coreboot (coreboot_ram is loaded from CBFS).
> Usually, 64kb is enough, and choosing smaller values only makes  
> configuring the XIP range harder.
>
> For boards with coreboot_apc image (AMD stuff mostly), you also have to  
> remove "ldscript /arch/i386/init/ldscript_apc.lb" from the mainboard's  
> Config.lb (not shown in this patch set, as none of these boards uses  
> it). coreboot_apc also resides in CBFS now, so this link hack in not  
> required anymore.
>
> With this, I think CBFS has no regressions over the old style rom image  
> layout anymore, so moving everything over to using CBFS would be a nice  
> next step, as lots of stuff in the build system could disappear after 
> that.

Most of the text above should make a good start for a "How to move a
board to CBFS" page in the wiki.
> Index: targets/asus/m2v-mx_se/Config-abuild.lb
> ===================================================================
> --- targets/asus/m2v-mx_se/Config-abuild.lb	(revision 4340)
> +++ targets/asus/m2v-mx_se/Config-abuild.lb	(working copy)
> @@ -20,6 +20,10 @@
>  target asus_m2v-mx_se
>  mainboard asus/m2v-mx_se
>
> +option CC="CROSSCC"
> +option CROSS_COMPILE="CROSS_PREFIX"
> +option HOSTCC="CROSS_HOSTCC"

Shouldn't this be

  option CC="$(CROSSCC)"
  option CROSS_COMPILE="$(CROSS_PREFIX)"
  option HOSTCC="$(CROSS_HOSTCC)"

Does the syntax without braces work?


I confirmed on hardware (the kontron board), that these patches
do indeed build/work fine _and_ fix the currently broken kontron
board build. Without the patches you get 0xff on POST cards, and
no serial output at all.

Acked-by: Uwe Hermann <[e-mail]>

but please take Myles' comments into account.


Uwe.
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[PATCH]es to get normal image to work again with CBFS

[Patrick Georgi]

Uwe Hermann schrieb:
> Shouldn't this be
>
> option CC="$(CROSSCC)"
>   option CROSS_COMPILE="$(CROSS_PREFIX)"
>   option HOSTCC="$(CROSS_HOSTCC)"
>
> Does the syntax without braces work?

They're replaced by abuild, and not part of make's variable expansion. 
Using $(..) would actually break them
> but please take Myles' comments into account.

That is, remove the Config-abuild.lb for the HP board?


Thanks,
Patrick

[PATCH]es to get normal image to work again with CBFS

[Uwe Hermann]

On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 12:27:06AM +0200, Patrick Georgi wrote:
> Uwe Hermann schrieb:
> > Shouldn't this be
> >
> > option CC="$(CROSSCC)"
> >   option CROSS_COMPILE="$(CROSS_PREFIX)"
> >   option HOSTCC="$(CROSS_HOSTCC)"
> >
> > Does the syntax without braces work?
>
> They're replaced by abuild, and not part of make's variable expansion.  
> Using $(..) would actually break them
> > but please take Myles' comments into account.
>
> That is, remove the Config-abuild.lb for the HP board?

Yes, but it's also fine if you can fix this in another way.


Uwe.
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