Re: [coreboot] KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer (was: Fund a TALOS Secure Workstation as coreboot build system)

[Timothy Pearson]

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On 01/19/2017 11:36 AM, Martin Roth wrote:
  Hey Merlin,
   I was taking and keeping track of the pledges for Talos, so I'd be
 happy to continue.
 
 Martin
I just wanted to bring this back up for discussion.  Raptor is chipping
in funding for over half of the development work, and Martin is matching
pledges, so if there's interest in this port your contributions will go
a long way, but it still depends on community interest.  Are you willing
to contribute to this development project?  It is a limited time offer,
so the quicker we can reach the relatively low goal to get this work
underway the better. :-)

Thanks!

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Timothy Pearson
Raptor Engineering
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[phone] (switchboard)
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Crowdfunding Status for KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer

[Timothy Pearson]

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A quick update.

As of today, we have $10,250 pledged out of $20,000 required to start
work on the OpenBMC support for KGPE-D16 systems using coreboot.  Raptor
is, as before, contributing an additional $25,000+ toward development
should the $20,000 community goal be reached.

If you would like to help get this port started, please contact Martin
Roth (gaumless(a)gmail.com) with information on what you would like to
pledge.  This offer is time limited; we are looking to end the offer in
the next month or so, so if this is something you would like to see
please step up and contribute something to this goal!

As a general reminder, the KGPE-D16 is the last, most powerful
owner-controllable X86 workstation / server class machine available.  It
is still in production along with its Opteron CPUs, so it occupies a
unique position in coreboot's tree.  Providing a libre BMC for this
system could help adoption of coreboot in server environments,
strengthening its position some in the market.

Thank you!

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Timothy Pearson
Raptor Engineering
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Crowdfunding Status for KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer

[Timothy Pearson]

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A brief update on the funding status of the BMC port for the KGPE-D16:

We have posted a dedicated page with details on the port offer, who is
funding the work thus far, and current funding level here:

https://www.raptorengineering.com/coreboot/kgpe-d16-bmc-port-offer.php

While we did see an increase in pledges, unfortunately we had one
individual revise their pledge amount downward since the last post,
yielding a slight net loss from the prior funding level.  We are
currently sitting at around half of the needed community support, and
around 80% of the total funding goal.

If you would like to see this happen, please contact Martin Roth at
gaumless(a)gmail.com to make a pledge to this community-driven
crowdfunding campaign.

Thanks!

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Timothy Pearson
Raptor Engineering
[phone] (direct line)
[phone] (switchboard)
https://www.raptorengineering.com
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Crowdfunding Status for KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer

[Timothy Pearson]

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A brief update on the funding status of the BMC port for the KGPE-D16:

With the campaign ending in a little over a week, we are currently
sitting at around 61% of the needed community support, and around 85% of
the total funding goal.  Full details are available here:

https://www.raptorengineering.com/coreboot/kgpe-d16-bmc-port-offer.php

If you would like to see this happen, please contact Martin Roth at
gaumless(a)gmail.com to make a pledge to this community-driven
crowdfunding campaign.

Thanks!

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Timothy Pearson
Raptor Engineering
[phone] (direct line)
[phone] (switchboard)
https://www.raptorengineering.com

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Crowdfunding Status for KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer

Hey maybe a stupid question but why not port OpenBMC to a pci-e card 
instead? then it would have wider compatibility instead of just being 
for a single board.

Crowdfunding Status for KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer

[Timothy Pearson]

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On 02/20/2017 06:56 PM, Taiidan(a)gmx.com wrote:
  Hey maybe a stupid question but why not port OpenBMC
to a pci-e card
 instead? then it would have wider compatibility instead of just being
 for a single board.
The costs would increase correspondingly, and we highly doubt that the
new funding goals would be met for such a venture.

Additionally, some features could not be easily duplicated as the wiring
is already embedded inside modern mainboard PCBs.  For instance, it
would be very difficult if not impossible to use the internal RS-232
interface over such a system, requiring that the PCIe card also emulate
specific devices to the host system, and in turn that the host system
would require card-specific drivers and OS configuration.

Did I mention that this port would also be applicable to the KCMA-D8
and, theoretically, most of ASUS's v4 BMC boards?  You're getting quite
a bit for the money already! :-)

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Crowdfunding Status for KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer

That's great news. I notice that the goal amounts for the serial console
access and thermal management have increased. Why is that?

http://web.archive.org/web/20170221164151/https://www.raptorengineering.com…


On Mon, 20 Feb 2017, at 18:01, Timothy Pearson wrote:
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 A brief update on the funding status of the BMC port for the KGPE-D16:
 
 With the campaign ending in a little over a week, we are currently
 sitting at around 61% of the needed community support, and around 85% of
 the total funding goal.  Full details are available here:
 
 https://www.raptorengineering.com/coreboot/kgpe-d16-bmc-port-offer.php
 
 If you would like to see this happen, please contact Martin Roth at
 gaumless(a)gmail.com to make a pledge to this community-driven
 crowdfunding campaign.
 
 Thanks!
 
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 Timothy Pearson
 Raptor Engineering
 [phone] (direct line)
 [phone] (switchboard)
 https://www.raptorengineering.com
 
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Crowdfunding Status for KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer

[Timothy Pearson]

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On 03/08/2017 12:52 PM, cb(a)imap.cc wrote:
  That's great news. I notice that the goal amounts
for the serial console
 access and thermal management have increased. Why is that?


http://web.archive.org/web/20170221164151/https://www.raptorengineering.com…
As we looked more closely into those two features, additional unexpected
complexity became apparent.  Since they were not yet funded, we updated
the goals to more accurately reflect the anticipated work to get them
working correctly.  In comparison, all of the funded goals are "locked"
and cannot be changed.

Thanks!

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Timothy Pearson
Raptor Engineering
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Hey Tim could you elaborate on the IBM OpenBMC stretch goal? Technical 
details, benefits etc as I don't have any POWER systems I don't know 
what it is.

- Thanks

Crowdfunding Status for KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer

[Timothy Pearson]

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On 03/08/2017 02:51 PM, Taiidan(a)gmx.com wrote:
  Hey Tim could you elaborate on the IBM OpenBMC stretch
goal? Technical
 details, benefits etc as I don't have any POWER systems I don't know
 what it is.
 
 - Thanks
The IBM OpenBMC fork is under active development by IBM; as a result, it
uses a completely different userspace and a newer kernel, among other
differences.  It aims to be a less specialized BMC firmware than the
Facebook version, i.e. more of a direct replacement for the proprietary
AMI firmware typically shipped on OEM mainboards.

As you can imagine, this adds a significant amount of size and
complexity to the resultant firmware, and I expect new hardware will
need to be created to hold and execute the resultant images.
Furthermore, attempting to execute a port and upstream it when the
underlying source tree is in constant flux adds significant effort and
overall cost, therefore we are only looking into this as a stretch goal
versus risking not having any libre firmware available at all for these
systems due to cost constraints.

Thanks!

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Timothy Pearson
Raptor Engineering
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[phone] (switchboard)
https://www.raptorengineering.com
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Crowdfunding Status for KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer

[Timothy Pearson]

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After campaign close, we have funded three of the four stretch goals!
In addition to providing the base BMC port, we will be adding support
for the KGPE-D16 BMC to Flashrom, adding support for the IPMI remote
serial console, and enabling BMC-based hardware thermal management.

Pledges are currently being collected and work will start after pledge
collection has been completed.  Thank you all for your support and we
hope to be able to make the KGPE-D16 a worthy addition to any security
and freedom conscious datacenter!

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Timothy Pearson
Raptor Engineering
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[phone] (switchboard)
https://www.raptorengineering.com
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Are there any status updates on this?

I noticed that some people still haven't paid up and we're a couple 
grand short.

- Thanks

Crowdfunding Status for KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer

[Timothy Pearson]

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  Are there any status updates on this?
 
 I noticed that some people still haven't paid up and we're a couple
 grand short.
That is correct; unfortunately we're still waiting for the remaining
payments.  I'm checking with Martin to see if we've had any success with
collecting the last payments, but if we haven't been able to collect by
the end of the month the most likely action will be to drop one of the
stretch goals and move forward without it.

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Raptor Engineering
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[phone] (switchboard)
https://www.raptorengineering.com
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[Timothy Pearson]

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A brief update on the funding status of the BMC port for the KGPE-D16:

As of today we have reached around 89% of the needed community support,
and around 95% of the total base goal!  To see if some of the stretch
goals may be of interest to the larger community, we have extended the
campaign one time only to end on March 10, but will start work on the
base goal as soon as the base funding level has been reached.

As always, full details are available here:

https://www.raptorengineering.com/coreboot/kgpe-d16-bmc-port-offer.php

If you would like to see this happen, please contact Martin Roth at
gaumless(a)gmail.com to make a pledge to this community-driven
crowdfunding campaign.

Thanks!

- -- 
Timothy Pearson
Raptor Engineering
[phone] (direct line)
[phone] (switchboard)
https://www.raptorengineering.com
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On 02/27/2017 02:16 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote:

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 A brief update on the funding status of the BMC port for the KGPE-D16:

 As of today we have reached around 89% of the needed community support,
 and around 95% of the total base goal!  To see if some of the stretch
 goals may be of interest to the larger community, we have extended the
 campaign one time only to end on March 10, but will start work on the
 base goal as soon as the base funding level has been reached.

 As always, full details are available here:

 https://www.raptorengineering.com/coreboot/kgpe-d16-bmc-port-offer.php

 If you would like to see this happen, please contact Martin Roth at
 gaumless(a)gmail.com to make a pledge to this community-driven
 crowdfunding campaign.

 Thanks!

 - -- 
 Timothy Pearson
 Raptor Engineering
 [phone] (direct line)
 [phone] (switchboard)
 https://www.raptorengineering.com
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Yay almost there :D

Have you guys contacted the FSF or other free software non profits that 
might be interested in funding it?

Crowdfunding Status for KGPE-D16 BMC Port Offer

[Martin Roth]

Yes, the FSF sent out an email on Friday, and that's helped get the
community funding portion from 60% up to where we are now at at 92%.

Martin

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Taiidan(a)gmx.com <Taiidan(a)gmx.com> wrote:

  On 02/27/2017 02:16 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote:

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 A brief update on the funding status of the BMC port for the KGPE-D16:

 As of today we have reached around 89% of the needed community support,
 and around 95% of the total base goal!  To see if some of the stretch
 goals may be of interest to the larger community, we have extended the
 campaign one time only to end on March 10, but will start work on the
 base goal as soon as the base funding level has been reached.

 As always, full details are available here:

 https://www.raptorengineering.com/coreboot/kgpe-d16-bmc-port-offer.php

 If you would like to see this happen, please contact Martin Roth at
 gaumless(a)gmail.com to make a pledge to this community-driven
 crowdfunding campaign.

 Thanks!

 - -- Timothy Pearson
 Raptor Engineering
 [phone] (direct line)
 [phone] (switchboard)
 https://www.raptorengineering.com
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 Yay almost there :D
 Have you guys contacted the FSF or other free software non profits that
 might be interested in funding it?

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