Where to get a Winbond W39V040BPZ chip?

[Richard Stellingwerff]

Hi,

I finally got my Jetway J7F41G2E-PB board. I have identified the BIOS
chip as a Winbond W39V040BPZ.

Does anyone know where I can order an extra chip that I use as a
backup? Also, does it have to be a Winbond W39V040BPZ or can I get an
alternative? Preferably I would like to get one at a local electronics
shop, but the one I went to said he didn't have it, and that it would
be very difficult to get one. I find that hard to believe, though.

Should I try another electronics shop, or are you guys sure I won't it there?

Kind regards,
Richard.

[Carl-Daniel Hailfinger]

Hi Richard,

On 18.04.2008 16:13, Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> I finally got my Jetway J7F41G2E-PB board. I have identified the BIOS
> chip as a Winbond W39V040BPZ.
>
> Does anyone know where I can order an extra chip that I use as a
> backup? Also, does it have to be a Winbond W39V040BPZ or can I get an
> alternative? Preferably I would like to get one at a local electronics
> shop, but the one I went to said he didn't have it, and that it would
> be very difficult to get one. I find that hard to believe, though.
>
> Should I try another electronics shop, or are you guys sure I won't it there?

Where do you live? We know lots of sources for such chips and can tell
you the right ones for the country you're living in.

Regards,
Carl-Daniel

[Richard Stellingwerff]

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
 wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> On 18.04.2008 16:13, Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> > I finally got my Jetway J7F41G2E-PB board. I have identified the BIOS
> > chip as a Winbond W39V040BPZ.
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can order an extra chip that I use as a
> > backup? Also, does it have to be a Winbond W39V040BPZ or can I get an
> > alternative? Preferably I would like to get one at a local electronics
> > shop, but the one I went to said he didn't have it, and that it would
> > be very difficult to get one. I find that hard to believe, though.
> >
> > Should I try another electronics shop, or are you guys sure I won't it there?
>
> Where do you live? We know lots of sources for such chips and can tell
>  you the right ones for the country you're living in.

I live in The Netherlands, in a town called Tzum.

Thanks!
> Regards,
>  Carl-Daniel

[Carl-Daniel Hailfinger]

On 18.04.2008 16:39, Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
>  wrote:
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> > On 18.04.2008 16:13, Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> > > I finally got my Jetway J7F41G2E-PB board. I have identified the BIOS
> > > chip as a Winbond W39V040BPZ.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know where I can order an extra chip that I use as a
> > > backup? Also, does it have to be a Winbond W39V040BPZ or can I get an

I had the same chip (it was really ruined after some failed erase tries,
it even answered with an invalid vendor ID) and replaced it with a SST
chip of the same size. I can dig up the model number of the new
compatible chip if the other answers you got were insufficient.

Regards,
Carl-Daniel

[Richard Stellingwerff]

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:07 PM, bari  wrote:
> Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> > Does anyone know where I can order an extra chip that I use as a
> > backup? Also, does it have to be a Winbond W39V040BPZ or can I get an
> > alternative?
>
> SST   SST-49LF080A will also work.
>
> Part Number:    SST49LF080A-33-4C-NHE
>
> http://www.sst.com/products.xhtml/serial_flash/49/SST49LF080A

Alright, I think I will try this one then, also based on the other
replies that the Winbond will probably not flash with the chipset I
use.

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Corey Osgood  wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Peter Stuge  wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 04:13:22PM +0200, Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> > > does it have to be a Winbond W39V040BPZ or can I get an alternative?
> >
> > Must not be Winbond at all.
>
> And I don't know about others, but I haven't been able to get that chip to
> program with the v8237r and flashrom. It programs fine in a programmer and
> works fine, but either erase or write doesn't work correctly. I've
> successfully used PMC (now pflash?) pm49fl004 and winbond w38v080a, which
> are both part of BIOS Savior RD1s.

I'll see if I can find pm49fl004 as well. Is it compatible with the
Winbond chip I have?

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
 wrote:
> I had the same chip (it was really ruined after some failed erase tries,
>  it even answered with an invalid vendor ID) and replaced it with a SST
>  chip of the same size. I can dig up the model number of the new
>  compatible chip if the other answers you got were insufficient.

Is it the same SST chip Bari suggested?

Thanks everyone!

Kind regards,
Richard Stellingwerff.

[bari]

Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> I'll see if I can find pm49fl004 as well. Is it compatible with the
> Winbond chip I have?
>
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
>  wrote:
> > I had the same chip (it was really ruined after some failed erase tries,
> >  it even answered with an invalid vendor ID) and replaced it with a SST
> >  chip of the same size. I can dig up the model number of the new
> >  compatible chip if the other answers you got were insufficient.
>
> Is it the same SST chip Bari suggested?
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
> Kind regards,
> Richard Stellingwerff.

Pm49FL004  will also work.

http://www.chingistek.com/products/fwh.cfm

http://www.chingistek.com/resource_center/docs/Pm49FL002%2D004%20V1%2E8%2Epd...

http://www.chingistek.com/sales/sales_office.cfm

-Bari

[Richard Stellingwerff]

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 6:09 PM, bari  wrote:
> Pm49FL004  will also work.
>
> http://www.chingistek.com/products/fwh.cfm
>
> http://www.chingistek.com/resource_center/docs/Pm49FL002%2D004%20V1%2E8%2Epd...
>
> http://www.chingistek.com/sales/sales_office.cfm
>
> -Bari

Well, the postman finally delivered my chips :)

However, there's a little problem. I thought I had ordered the
SST49FL040A-90-4C-NH, but it turns out I ordered SST28SF040A-90-4C-NH
instead.

Luckily I also ordered the PMC Pm49FL004T-33JC, so hopefully I can
still continue my ventures :)

Any chance the SST28SF040-90-4C-NH will work though? I'm a little
afraid to damage the board, so I won't try until someone confirms.

[bari]

> Any chance the SST28SF040-90-4C-NH will work though? I'm a little
> afraid to damage the board, so I won't try until someone confirms.

No chance. Wrong interface. It is not a LPC flash.

-Bari

[bari]

Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I finally got my Jetway J7F41G2E-PB board. I have identified the BIOS
> chip as a Winbond W39V040BPZ.
>
> Does anyone know where I can order an extra chip that I use as a
> backup? Also, does it have to be a Winbond W39V040BPZ or can I get an
> alternative?

SST   SST-49LF080A will also work.

Part Number:    SST49LF080A-33-4C-NHE

http://www.sst.com/products.xhtml/serial_flash/49/SST49LF080A

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http://www.futureelectronics.com/1033/contact/countries.asp?Val=Europe
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Winbond:

http://www.winbond.com.tw/hq/enu/ProductAndSales/ProductLines/FlashMemory/Pa...

Atlantik Elektronik GmbH

Branch Office BeNeLux
      Industrieweg
      4181 CA Waardenburg The Netherlands
      Tel.: [phone]
      Fax: [phone]
      E-mail: [e-mail]
      Url: http://www.atxx.nl/

-Bari

[Peter Stuge]

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 04:13:22PM +0200, Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> does it have to be a Winbond W39V040BPZ or can I get an alternative?

Must not be Winbond at all.
> the one I went to said he didn't have it, and that it would be very
> difficult to get one. I find that hard to believe, though.

It is true.

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:07:15AM -0500, bari wrote:
> Atlantik Elektronik GmbH
>       Tel.: [phone]

The Swedish distributors have told me that Winbond is not at all
interested in small sales volumes such as this.

And for someone to keep stock is not very likely, since this is an
infrequent sale.

//Peter

[Corey Osgood]

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Peter Stuge  wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 04:13:22PM +0200, Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> > does it have to be a Winbond W39V040BPZ or can I get an alternative?
>
> Must not be Winbond at all.

And I don't know about others, but I haven't been able to get that chip to
program with the v8237r and flashrom. It programs fine in a programmer and
works fine, but either erase or write doesn't work correctly. I've
successfully used PMC (now pflash?) pm49fl004 and winbond w38v080a, which
are both part of BIOS Savior RD1s.

-Corey
> > the one I went to said he didn't have it, and that it would be very
> > difficult to get one. I find that hard to believe, though.
>
> It is true.
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:07:15AM -0500, bari wrote:
> > Atlantik Elektronik GmbH
> >       Tel.: [phone]
>
> The Swedish distributors have told me that Winbond is not at all
> interested in small sales volumes such as this.
>
> And for someone to keep stock is not very likely, since this is an
> infrequent sale.
>
> //Peter

[Richard Stellingwerff]

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:07 PM, bari  wrote:
> Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I finally got my Jetway J7F41G2E-PB board. I have identified the BIOS
> > chip as a Winbond W39V040BPZ.
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can order an extra chip that I use as a
> > backup? Also, does it have to be a Winbond W39V040BPZ or can I get an
> > alternative?
>
> SST   SST-49LF080A will also work.
>
> Part Number:    SST49LF080A-33-4C-NHE

Will the SST49LF080A-33-4C-NH (512Kx8) work as well? This probably
qualifies as a stupid question, but I just want to make sure.

The Winbond chip is 512Kx8 as well.

[Richard Stellingwerff]

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Richard Stellingwerff
 wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:07 PM, bari  wrote:
> > Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I finally got my Jetway J7F41G2E-PB board. I have identified the BIOS
> > > chip as a Winbond W39V040BPZ.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know where I can order an extra chip that I use as a
> > > backup? Also, does it have to be a Winbond W39V040BPZ or can I get an
> > > alternative?
> >
> > SST   SST-49LF080A will also work.
> >
> > Part Number:    SST49LF080A-33-4C-NHE
>
> Will the SST49LF080A-33-4C-NH (512Kx8) work as well? This probably
>  qualifies as a stupid question, but I just want to make sure.

Oops, I meant SST49LF040-33-4C-NH... Sorry about that.

[bari]

Richard Stellingwerff wrote:
> Oops, I meant SST49LF040-33-4C-NH... Sorry about that.

http://www.sst.com/products/eol.xhtml

That part was EOLed last year, but it will work if you can find it.

-Bari