Serial Console option (was Coreboot fails to initialize on ASUS A8V-E SE)

[Myles Watson]

> yes I can confirm that the Kconfig build method work for me too. As
> Rudolf said I had to disable VGA ROM as well otherwise it will came up
> with a exception error. It's necessary to have "Serial port console
> output" set to yes or it won't compile.

I'm not sure it makes sense for Coreboot to have that option.  It only takes
a few #if defined() statements to make it compile, but I'd rather see the
option disappear.  Users that want more speed can choose a different console
verbosity.

Comments?

Thanks,
Myles

Serial Console option (was Coreboot fails to initialize on ASUS A8V-E SE)

[ron minnich]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Myles Watson  wrote:
> > yes I can confirm that the Kconfig build method work for me too. As
> > Rudolf said I had to disable VGA ROM as well otherwise it will came up
> > with a exception error. It's necessary to have "Serial port console
> > output" set to yes or it won't compile.
>
> I'm not sure it makes sense for Coreboot to have that option.  It only takes
> a few #if defined() statements to make it compile, but I'd rather see the
> option disappear.  Users that want more speed can choose a different console
> verbosity.
>
> Comments?

Assuming all machines now and forever will have serial console ... I
am pretty sure that's an unsafe assumption.

ron

Serial Console option (was Coreboot fails to initialize on ASUS A8V-E SE)

[Myles Watson]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, ron minnich  wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Myles Watson  wrote:
> > > yes I can confirm that the Kconfig build method work for me too. As
> > > Rudolf said I had to disable VGA ROM as well otherwise it will came up
> > > with a exception error. It's necessary to have "Serial port console
> > > output" set to yes or it won't compile.
> >
> > I'm not sure it makes sense for Coreboot to have that option.  It only
>
> takes
> > a few #if defined() statements to make it compile, but I'd rather see the
> > option disappear.  Users that want more speed can choose a different
>
> console
> > verbosity.
> >
> > Comments?
>
> Assuming all machines now and forever will have serial console ... I
> am pretty sure that's an unsafe assumption.

I guess I was looking at it more like this:  All the boards that we support
have serial ports.  If we have a serial port it makes sense to enable it.
The option to disable the serial port should disappear because it can be
subsumed in the "I have a serial port (CONFIG_SUPERIO_*)" option.  I can see
your point, though.

So, to fix the problem of Kconfig having options that break the build, you'd
like to use #ifdefs, right?

Thanks,
Myles

Serial Console option (was Coreboot fails to initialize on ASUS A8V-E SE)

[ron minnich]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Myles Watson  wrote:
> I guess I was looking at it more like this:  All the boards that we support
> have serial ports.  If we have a serial port it makes sense to enable it.
> The option to disable the serial port should disappear because it can be
> subsumed in the "I have a serial port (CONFIG_SUPERIO_*)" option.  I can see
> your point, though.
>
> So, to fix the problem of Kconfig having options that break the build, you'd
> like to use #ifdefs, right?

I have no idea to tell you the truth. I trust you more than I trust me :-)

ron

Serial Console option (was Coreboot fails to initialize on ASUS A8V-E SE)

[Joseph Smith]

On 12/15/2009 01:47 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Myles Watson  wrote:
> > I guess I was looking at it more like this:  All the boards that we support
> > have serial ports.  If we have a serial port it makes sense to enable it.
> > The option to disable the serial port should disappear because it can be
> > subsumed in the "I have a serial port (CONFIG_SUPERIO_*)" option.  I can see
> > your point, though.
> >
> > So, to fix the problem of Kconfig having options that break the build, you'd
> > like to use #ifdefs, right?
>
> I have no idea to tell you the truth. I trust you more than I trust me :-)

Hmm, I have been doing a little research lately on a Wyse terminal with 
a Geode that doesn't have a superio or per say an official serial port. 
I know the southbridge supports UART ports but will this throw a wrench 
into things? Especially what you are talking about above?

Serial Console option (was Coreboot fails to initialize on ASUS A8V-E SE)

[Myles Watson]

> Hmm, I have been doing a little research lately on a Wyse terminal with
> a Geode that doesn't have a superio or per say an official serial port.
> I know the southbridge supports UART ports but will this throw a wrench
> into things? Especially what you are talking about above?

I don't think it will be a problem.  I'm not going to change anything for
now.

Thanks,
Myles