In case you missed it: https://www.tenable.com/blog/rediscovering-the-intel-amt-vulnerability
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Peter Stuge peter@stuge.se wrote:
First, thanks to everyone who is working hard to maintain a good tone on the list. I certainly appreciate that.
While the ME and that it may have issues ;) is not so big news for many in this community, this is an important news story for IT in general, as it furthers the goal of platform and firmware openness.
Sometimes I disagree strongly with Ron, but I think he makes a good point here:
ron minnich wrote:
I realize feelings are strong about these issues, but calling people and projects "corrupt" is unacceptable and, in my view anyway, I'd like people who say such things to find another project. I watched the Plan 9 mailling list get destroyed by a few bad actors and I don't want to see that happen here.
I don't think saying "corrupt" is neccessarily taboo, but the word needs to be used carefully, or you may just end up poisoning the community - *that* is unacceptable.
I would like to take this opportunity to ask a favor of everyone in this community: Don't allow words to poison you too easily. Stay strong. I found this graphic very helpful:
http://www.netbooknews.com/wp-content/2011/07/the-pyramid- of-debate-550x417.jpg
Don't fall down the pyramid, and don't let anyone else pull you down.
It's easy to claim that someone else does the wrong<tm> thing even with good intentions, but you can extrapolate that someone is doing wrong<tm>, just because they seem to have good intentions.
And keep in mind that while everyone in the coreboot community seeks open firmware more or less actively, some seek even more open platforms than others.
As long as someone is investing in improving the firmware status quo, that is a good thing for all of us, even if the road becomes somewhat longer than we may like. It's not for me to say what someone else spends their time developing. I can disagree, and tell them, as they can with me, but I can't expect them to care.
My personal attitude to Librem as far as an open laptop platform goes is that it's too little too late, but that that's not really through any fault of Puri.sm.
Sure, I was disappointed by early communication with the company about the difficulties of the task they had set for themselves, and I agree that they have been underestimating the problem. I am guilty of that too at times. The question is what we do to better ourselves.
Like Ron, I think it's great that Youness is joining the coreboot community! :)
//Peter
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