Hello, First I apologize in advance for introducing some "off topic" noise in the coreboot mailing list, but I would like to point to you a story which was posted on slashdot 4 days ago : https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/17/12/03/2113220/dell-begins-offering-la... . So I have some questions to the coreboot community regarding this story (if you have the time and if you bother to read it..) : - I know that the aim of the coreboot project is to produce a fully open-source firmware alternative (and I fully subscript to this noble aim!..), but if we put ourselves in the place of a (corporate?) end-user, who NEEDS the security of a system with "features" like ME or PSP DISABLED, isn't "buying" the option "ME disabled" straight from the vendor a viable solution?.. Or in other words (I hope that I will avoid getting sued for this.. ;-)) : do you think that "buying" this advertised "option" is as reliable as say .. using open source tools like me_cleaner (DIY approach)?.. - And a more "politically sensitive" question (you can simply ignore it if it is too dangerous to answer..): do you think that Intel is somewhat .. "collaborative" (or at least indifferent..) to this new initiative of Dell or System76?.. Thanks in advance for your answers, Florentin Demetrescu