Hi
I second that. First Nico was banned from flashrom, now from coreboot. I saw no real basis for the previous decision and see none for this one. I even thought of him being overly nice in our recent interactions.
In general, he seems to care much more about the projects than many others and actually put in the effort. This can result in having strong opinions and disagreements, but that's not a bad thing.
Regards, Sergii
On Wed, Oct 02, 2024 at 11:55:55AM +0200, Arthur Heymans wrote:
Hi
I am not happy with this decision. We are a community with a lot of passionate individuals that differ in their communication style. Differences in communication styles cause friction, there is no way around it. Commenting beyond the mere technical on how we treat each other in a community is appropriate and not a violation of respectful conduct. To the contrary, sometimes a more heated discussion is to be preferred to be being "nice" all the time.
I remember on one of my first patches in 2016, that Nico commented that the code looked so bad he wanted to cry. It's not "nice" but it was really bad code and I learned a lot since then, thanks to the honest and truthful communication of the community. More direct communication is preferred by lot of people, including myself.
I believe Nico is a good actor in our community and a 1 year ban does more harm than good. I personally thoroughly enjoy having him as a reviewer.
I ask the leadership to revisit this decision. Coreboot is a hard project to get into and driving the most competent people away is not a smart move.
Arthur
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 9:40 AM David Hendricks via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote:
Dear coreboot community members,
Recently there was some unpleasant activity on Gerrit which violated our community’s guidelines regarding respectful conduct. In this case the coreboot leadership team determined that the behavior in question fit a long pattern about which the individual had been previously warned. As a result we have decided to remove Nico from our community for a period of 1 year. We hope this will be a sufficient cooling off period and that we will not need to take more drastic steps in the future.
As we've said in the past, we trust that developers in our community are acting in good faith and can generally resolve issues on their own. In cases where two sides cannot reach an agreement, for example in a code review, we expect all engagement to be respectful and to help drive toward a solution. For technical matters this often means starting a mailing list discussion, bringing an issue up during the coreboot leadership meeting, starting a task force to tackle a large problem, or other means of gathering input and collaborating.
Personal matters should be brought to the leadership team directly. We'll listen to any complaints or frustrations, but cannot tolerate personal attacks made on Gerrit, the mailing list, or other forums. It is always required that we treat others in a professional manner and communicate with respect, regardless of how strongly we may feel about a particular issue.
If anybody feels that a discussion has become too heated, or that somebody is not being treated respectfully, or are simply unsure of how to proceed in a difficult situation, please reach out to the coreboot leadership and we will chart a path forward together. _______________________________________________ coreboot mailing list -- coreboot@coreboot.org To unsubscribe send an email to coreboot-leave@coreboot.org