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Re: Is possible Linux on flash memory?
by Ken Fuchs 09 May '04

09 May '04

LinuxBIOS doesn't support USB pen drives or USB compact flash. It does support ATA (IDE) flash devices. On a normal (proprietary) BIOS: Booting from USB is supported on many newer motherboards with a BIOS that supports this. I use Flonix to boot from a 64MB USB pen drive: http://mir2.ovh.net/flonix/ The Flonix forums are at: http://www.flonix.com/support/viewforum.php?f=11 I also tried Puppy Linux (http.goosee.com/puppy/), but the USB bootloader (syslinux 2.08) didn't work for me. Using Knoppix 3.3 2-16-2004, I was able to install it's syslinux 2.04 bootloader: # syslinux /dev/sda1 To make Flonix bootable, you can also use the above command from the Knoppix live CD. (The first USB flash is /dev/sda, if there are _no_ SCSI drives. Otherwise, USB flash is the last "SCSI" device, i.e. /dev/sdc with two SCSI hard drives with special files /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.) There are other Linux distributions built to be installed on a USB pen drive or flash. Check out http://www.linux-usb.org/ for general Linux USB information. BTW, I sent Flavio a private e-mail to flavio_groups(a)yahoo.com.br and it bounced. So, I'm forced to answer via the LinuxBIOS mailing list. Sorry. Sincerely, Ken Fuchs <kfuchs(a)winternet.com>

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RE: Is possible Linux on flash memory?
by Gregg C Levine 08 May '04

08 May '04

Hello from Gregg C Levine It should work indeed. However, I've got a strange series of problems that might be related to my distribution's choice of versions, and I'll post the script output here in this message. However, it will be a long one. I think some of these problems might be related to the distribution you chose, Steven, whose is it, and what's the version on it? Mine is Slackware 9.1, which came with those versions of tools. (Script output follows.) That's the versions of my GCC, and binary tools.: Script started on Sat May 8 12:59:30 2004 root@who5:/# gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.2.3 Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. root@who5:/# ld --version GNU ld version 2.14.90.0.6 20030820 Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program is free software; you may redistribute it under the terms of the GNU General Public License. This program has absolutely no warranty. root@who5:/# exit Script done on Sat May 8 12:59:46 2004 This one is from the library for the bare metal project: Script started on Sat May 8 12:47:01 2004 root@who5:/usr/src/lobos/freebios/util/baremetal/lib# make gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -c ../../../src/lib/printk.c gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -c -o serial_subr.o serial_subr.c gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -c -o subr.o subr.c In file included from subr.c:16: ../include/string.h:9: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -c ../../../src/lib/vsprintf.c In file included from ../../../src/lib/vsprintf.c:18: ../include/string.h:9: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -c ../../../src/lib/memcpy.c In file included from ../../../src/lib/memcpy.c:1: ../include/string.h:9: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -c ../../../src/lib/malloc.c gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -c ../../../src/lib/memset.c In file included from ../../../src/lib/memset.c:1: ../include/string.h:9: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -c ../../../src/lib/compute_ip_checksum.c gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -c -o elfboot.o elfboot.c In file included from elfboot.c:8: ../include/string.h:9: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -c -o boot.o boot.c In file included from boot.c:4: ../include/string.h:9: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -c ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c In file included from ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:26: ../include/string.h:9: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:27:19: delay.h: No such file or directory ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:28:17: pci.h: No such file or directory ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:33: conflicting types for `harddisk_info' ../include/pc80/ide.h:54: previous declaration of `harddisk_info' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `not_bsy': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:59: invalid use of undefined type `struct controller' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:59: warning: passing arg 1 of `inb' makes integer from pointer without a cast ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:59: `IDE_STATUS_BSY' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:59: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:59: for each function it appears in.) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `ide_software_reset': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:83: `IDE_CTRL_HD15' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:83: `IDE_CTRL_SRST' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:83: `IDE_CTRL_NIEN' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: At top level: ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:95: warning: `struct ide_pio_command' declared inside parameter list ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:95: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `pio_set_registers': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:97: `uint8_t' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:97: syntax error before "device" ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:99: `IDE_CTRL_HD15' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:99: `IDE_CTRL_NIEN' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:102: `device' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:103: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:104: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:111: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:112: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:112: invalid use of undefined type `struct controller' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:112: warning: passing arg 2 of `outb' makes integer from pointer without a cast ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:113: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:113: invalid use of undefined type `struct controller' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:113: warning: passing arg 2 of `outb' makes integer from pointer without a cast ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:114: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:115: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:116: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:117: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:118: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:119: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:120: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:120: invalid use of undefined type `struct controller' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:120: warning: passing arg 2 of `outb' makes integer from pointer without a cast ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: At top level: ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:124: warning: `struct ide_pio_command' declared inside parameter list ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `pio_non_data': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:131: warning: passing arg 2 of `pio_set_registers' from incompatible pointer type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: At top level: ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:140: warning: `struct ide_pio_command' declared inside parameter list ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `pio_data_in': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:151: warning: passing arg 2 of `pio_set_registers' from incompatible pointer type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:155: invalid use of undefined type `struct controller' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:155: warning: passing arg 1 of `inb' makes integer from pointer without a cast ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:156: `IDE_STATUS_DRQ' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:159: invalid use of undefined type `struct controller' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:159: warning: passing arg 1 of `insw' makes integer from pointer without a cast ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:160: invalid use of undefined type `struct controller' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:160: warning: passing arg 1 of `inb' makes integer from pointer without a cast ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:161: `IDE_STATUS_ERR' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `ide_read_sector_chs': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:170: storage size of `cmd' isn't known ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:178: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:180: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:181: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:186: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:187: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:189: `IDE_CMD_READ_SECTORS' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:190: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `ide_read_sector_lba': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:196: storage size of `cmd' isn't known ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:205: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:207: `IDE_CMD_READ_SECTORS' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:208: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: At top level: ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:212: syntax error before "sector_t" ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `ide_read_sector_lba48': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:214: storage size of `cmd' isn't known ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:218: `sector' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:224: `info' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:225: `IDE_CMD_READ_SECTORS_EXT' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:226: `buffer' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `ide_read_sector': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:232: invalid use of undefined type `struct harddisk_info' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:236: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:239: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:239: `ADDRESS_MODE_CHS' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:242: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:242: `ADDRESS_MODE_LBA' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:245: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:245: `ADDRESS_MODE_LBA48' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `init_drive': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:256: `uint16_t' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:256: `drive_info' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:257: storage size of `cmd' isn't known ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:258: `DISK_BUFFER_SIZE' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:261: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:262: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:263: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:264: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:265: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:266: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:267: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:268: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:269: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:270: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:272: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:275: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:283: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:286: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:291: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:294: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:299: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:302: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:303: `IDE_CMD_IDENTIFY_DEVICE' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:313: syntax error before ')' token ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:318: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:319: `IDE_FEATURE_STANDBY_SPINUP_DRIVE' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:330: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:346: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:347: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:349: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:350: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:354: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:354: `ADDRESS_MODE_LBA' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:355: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:360: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:360: `ADDRESS_MODE_LBA48' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:361: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:362: `sector_t' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:362: syntax error before "drive_info" ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:363: syntax error before "drive_info" ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:364: syntax error before "drive_info" ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:365: syntax error before "drive_info" ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:368: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:368: `ADDRESS_MODE_CHS' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:369: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:370: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:371: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:372: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:373: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:374: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:375: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:380: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:380: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:380: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:383: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:384: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:390: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:391: `IDE_FEATURE_CFA_ENABLE_POWER_MODE1' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:403: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:403: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `init_controller': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:457: invalid use of undefined type `struct harddisk_info' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: In function `ide_init': ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:478: sizeof applied to an incomplete type ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:498: `uint16_t' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:498: syntax error before "base" ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:499: `base' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:499: `IDE_BASE0' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:500: invalid use of undefined type `struct controller' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:501: invalid use of undefined type `struct controller' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:503: invalid use of undefined type `struct controller' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:503: invalid use of undefined type `struct controller' ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c: At top level: ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:33: storage size of `harddisk_info' isn't known ../../../src/pc80/ide/ide.c:32: storage size of `controller' isn't known make: *** [ide.o] Error 1 root@who5:/usr/src/lobos/freebios/util/baremetal/lib# exit Script done on Sat May 8 12:47:09 2004 And this one is from the USB directory: Script started on Sat May 8 12:44:02 2004 root@who5:/usr/src/lobos/freebios/util/baremetal/usb# make gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -DDEBUG -DZKERNEL_START=0xfff00000 -c -o uhci.o uhci.c uhci.c:332:1: warning: "USBCMD" redefined In file included from uhci.c:39: uhci.h:290:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition uhci.c:333:1: warning: "USBSTS" redefined uhci.h:291:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition uhci.c:334:1: warning: "USBINTR" redefined uhci.h:292:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition uhci.c:335:1: warning: "FRNUM" redefined uhci.h:293:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition uhci.c:336:1: warning: "FLBASE" redefined uhci.h:294:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition uhci.c:337:1: warning: "SOFMOD" redefined uhci.h:295:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition uhci.c:338:1: warning: "PORTSC1" redefined uhci.h:296:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition uhci.c:339:1: warning: "PORTSC2" redefined uhci.h:297:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition uhci.c: In function `ctrl_msg': uhci.c:776: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast uhci.c: In function `hub_port_reset': uhci.c:1193: warning: passing arg 1 of `dump_hex' from incompatible pointer type uhci.c: In function `usb_hub_init': uhci.c:1272: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast uhci.c: In function `configure_device': uhci.c:1383: warning: passing arg 1 of `dump_config_descriptor' from incompatible pointer type gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -DDEBUG -DZKERNEL_START=0xfff00000 -c -o usb_scsi_low.o usb_scsi_low.c gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -DDEBUG -DZKERNEL_START=0xfff00000 -c -o debug.o debug.c In file included from debug.c:31: ../include/string.h:9: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -DDEBUG -DZKERNEL_START=0xfff00000 -c -o scsi_cmds.o scsi_cmds.c scsi_cmds.c: In function `ll_read_block': scsi_cmds.c:258: warning: passing arg 2 of `scsi_command' from incompatible pointer type scsi_cmds.c: In function `ll_write_block': scsi_cmds.c:280: warning: passing arg 2 of `scsi_command' from incompatible pointer type scsi_cmds.c: In function `ll_read_long': scsi_cmds.c:311: warning: passing arg 2 of `scsi_command' from incompatible pointer type scsi_cmds.c: In function `get_capacity': scsi_cmds.c:328: warning: passing arg 5 of `scsi_command' from incompatible pointer type scsi_cmds.c: In function `query': scsi_cmds.c:349: warning: passing arg 5 of `scsi_command' from incompatible pointer type scsi_cmds.c: In function `ReportLUNS': scsi_cmds.c:372: warning: passing arg 5 of `scsi_command' from incompatible pointer type scsi_cmds.c: In function `ReportOpCodes': scsi_cmds.c:423: warning: passing arg 2 of `scsi_command' from incompatible pointer type scsi_cmds.c:423: warning: passing arg 5 of `scsi_command' from incompatible pointer type scsi_cmds.c: In function `CheckVolumes': scsi_cmds.c:469: warning: passing arg 2 of `scsi_command' from incompatible pointer type scsi_cmds.c: In function `CheckPartitions': scsi_cmds.c:494: warning: passing arg 2 of `scsi_command' from incompatible pointer type scsi_cmds.c: In function `UnitReady': scsi_cmds.c:514: warning: passing arg 2 of `scsi_command' from incompatible pointer type gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -DDEBUG -DZKERNEL_START=0xfff00000 -c -o pci_util.o pci_util.c gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -DDEBUG -DZKERNEL_START=0xfff00000 -c -o block_fill_inbuf.o block_fill_inbuf.c In file included from block_fill_inbuf.c:8: ../include/string.h:9: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' gcc -I ../include -I ../include/i386 -O2 -DDEBUG -DZKERNEL_START=0xfff00000 -c -o main.o main.c main.c: In function `main': main.c:41: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast ld -defsym HEAPSIZE=0x8000 -T elfImage.lds main.o uhci.o usb_scsi_low.o debug.o scsi_cmds.o pci_util.o block_fill_inbuf.o ../lib/baremetal.a -o usbboot.elf uhci.o(.text+0x5e): In function `wait_head': : undefined reference to `udelay' uhci.o(.text+0x70a): In function `port_resume': : undefined reference to `udelay' uhci.o(.text+0x7c2): In function `port_reset': : undefined reference to `udelay' uhci.o(.text+0x819): In function `port_reset_long': : undefined reference to `udelay' uhci.o(.text+0x875): In function `hc_reset': : undefined reference to `udelay' uhci.o(.text+0xcdf): more undefined references to `udelay' follow make: *** [usbboot.elf] Error 1 root@who5:/usr/src/lobos/freebios/util/baremetal/usb# exit Script done on Sat May 8 12:44:16 2004 -------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi > -----Original Message----- > From: Yinghai Lu [mailto:yhlu@tyan.com] > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 12:48 PM > To: 'Steven James'; 'Gregg C Levine' > Cc: linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org > Subject: re: Is possible Linux on flash memory? > > Does it work now? > > If it works with raw device, after merge it into filo, it should use file system FAT > etc. > > Regards > > YH > > -----é‚®ä»¶åŽŸä»¶----- > å‘ä»¶äºº: linuxbios-admin(a)clustermatic.org [mailto:linuxbios- > admin(a)clustermatic.org] ä»£è¡¨ Steven James > å‘é€æ—¶é—´: 2004å¹´5æœˆ8æ—¥ 5:18 > æ”¶ä»¶äºº: Gregg C Levine > æŠ„é€: linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org > ä¸»é¢˜: RE: Is possible Linux on flash memory? > > Greetings, > > Yes, a kernel processed with Eric's mkelfImage. > > I don't have any filesystem code in the loader, so rather than mounting a > filesystem on the USB storage device, you need to partition it and then dd > the kernel image to the first partition. > > e.g. if your USB device shows up as sdb, dd if=kernel.elf of=/dev/sdb1 > > G'day, > sjames > > > -------------------------steven james, director of research, linux labs > ... ........ ..... .... 230 peachtree st nw ste 2701 > the original linux labs atlanta.ga.us 30303 > -since 1995 http://www.linuxlabs.com > office & fax 866.545.6306 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Sat, 8 May 2004, Gregg C Levine wrote: > > > Hello from Gregg C Levine > > It happens I just finished examining the code for the contents of that > > directory. But I've got just one question pending at the moment, how > > do you mean, "It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw > > device.". Explain that line of reasoning. Do you mean a kernel that's > > been pushed through the creation tool that Eric has created? And "raw > > device", now I'm lost, how about clarifying your position? > > ------------------- > > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi > > "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: linuxbios-admin(a)clustermatic.org [mailto:linuxbios- > > > admin(a)clustermatic.org] On Behalf Of Steven James > > > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 11:20 PM > > > To: Ken Fuchs > > > Cc: linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org > > > Subject: Re: Is possible Linux on flash memory? > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I've checked in the start of USB booting in util/baremetal/usb. > > > It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw device. I > > haven't > > > been able to find enough time yet to integrate it into FILO, but it > > should > > > probably go there. > > > > > > G'day, > > > sjames > > > > > > > > > -------------------------steven james, director of research, linux > > labs > > > ... ........ ..... .... 230 peachtree st nw ste > > 2701 > > > the original linux labs atlanta.ga.us > > 30303 > > > -since 1995 > > http://www.linuxlabs.com > > > office & fax > > 866.545.6306 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 7 May 2004, Ken Fuchs wrote: > > > > > > > LinuxBIOS doesn't support USB pen drives or USB compact flash. It > > does > > > > support ATA (IDE) flash devices. > > > > > > > > On a normal (proprietary) BIOS: > > > > > > > > Booting from USB is supported on many newer motherboards with a > > BIOS > > > > that supports this. I use Flonix to boot from a 64MB USB pen > > drive: > > > > > > > > http://mir2.ovh.net/flonix/ > > > > > > > > The Flonix forums are at: > > > > > > > > http://www.flonix.com/support/viewforum.php?f=11 > > > > > > > > I also tried Puppy Linux (http.goosee.com/puppy/), but the USB > > > > bootloader (syslinux 2.08) didn't work for me. Using Knoppix 3.3 > > > > 2-16-2004, I was able to install it's syslinux 2.04 bootloader: > > > > > > > > # syslinux /dev/sda1 > > > > > > > > To make Flonix bootable, you can also use the above command from > > > > the Knoppix live CD. > > > > > > > > (The first USB flash is /dev/sda, if there are _no_ SCSI drives. > > > > Otherwise, USB flash is the last "SCSI" device, i.e. /dev/sdc with > > two > > > > SCSI hard drives with special files /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.) > > > > > > > > There are other Linux distributions built to be installed on a USB > > pen > > > > drive or flash. > > > > > > > > Check out http://www.linux-usb.org/ for general Linux USB > > information. > > > > > > > > BTW, I sent Flavio a private e-mail to flavio_groups(a)yahoo.com.br > > and it > > > > bounced. So, I'm forced to answer via the LinuxBIOS mailing list. > > > > Sorry. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Ken Fuchs <kfuchs(a)winternet.com>

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CVS server naming reset---webpages need to be reset
by Gregg C Levine 07 May '04

07 May '04

Hello from Gregg C Levine Apologies in advance for the wordiness of the message, but I wanted to present everything that led up to the title of the mail message. Everyone, who in this group manages the website's pages on the subject of CVS? The Source Forge pages will need to be reset, as will be the one on www.linuxbios.org . Reason being that our good friends at Source Forge, made a few changes in their BIND software, and well they said it best: ( 2004-05-03 05:41:25 - Project CVS Service ) As of 2004-04-28 the CVS services will no longer function with the hostname of cvs.PROJECTNAME.sourceforge.net. You should change your CVS commands to use the host cvs.sourceforge.net (the fix for this under all platforms is to perform a checkout into a new directory using the new hostname) and that should resolve any outstanding issues that you may have (this includes issues relating to the SSH host key change warning, among others). This issue came about as a result of upgrading from BIND 8 to BIND 9 which doesn't allow for a wildcard in the middle of a hostname. Obviously they should have e-mailed that blurb to all project leaders, for all of the hosted projects, but, ah, they probably expected them to read the status report page, as I did. I discovered that, early on when I had problems downloading source code for a totally different project. I gave up on it, when I realized I didn't need them. However regarding the recent discussion on USB flash drives, it revived an interest of mine regarding same, I refreshed my memory going over the relevant e-mail messages from the archive. I did have to update my local storage, and that's why this whole business surfaced. Anyway on that theme, and subject, more later when I try out one of my ideas. Anyway I did notice the rearrangement of the stored files, and such like, and I appreciate the neat layout of same. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi

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答复: Is possible Linux on flash memory?
by YhLu 07 May '04

07 May '04

Does it work now? YH -----邮件原件----- 发件人: Steven James [mailto:pyro@linuxlabs.com] 发送时间: 2004年5月7日 20:20 收件人: Ken Fuchs 抄送: linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org 主题: Re: Is possible Linux on flash memory? Greetings, I've checked in the start of USB booting in util/baremetal/usb. It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw device. I haven't been able to find enough time yet to integrate it into FILO, but it should probably go there. G'day, sjames -------------------------steven james, director of research, linux labs ... ........ ..... .... 230 peachtree st nw ste 2701 the original linux labs atlanta.ga.us 30303 -since 1995 http://www.linuxlabs.com office & fax 866.545.6306 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7 May 2004, Ken Fuchs wrote: > LinuxBIOS doesn't support USB pen drives or USB compact flash. It does > support ATA (IDE) flash devices. > > On a normal (proprietary) BIOS: > > Booting from USB is supported on many newer motherboards with a BIOS > that supports this. I use Flonix to boot from a 64MB USB pen drive: > > http://mir2.ovh.net/flonix/ > > The Flonix forums are at: > > http://www.flonix.com/support/viewforum.php?f=11 > > I also tried Puppy Linux (http.goosee.com/puppy/), but the USB > bootloader (syslinux 2.08) didn't work for me. Using Knoppix 3.3 > 2-16-2004, I was able to install it's syslinux 2.04 bootloader: > > # syslinux /dev/sda1 > > To make Flonix bootable, you can also use the above command from > the Knoppix live CD. > > (The first USB flash is /dev/sda, if there are _no_ SCSI drives. > Otherwise, USB flash is the last "SCSI" device, i.e. /dev/sdc with two > SCSI hard drives with special files /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.) > > There are other Linux distributions built to be installed on a USB pen > drive or flash. > > Check out http://www.linux-usb.org/ for general Linux USB information. > > BTW, I sent Flavio a private e-mail to flavio_groups(a)yahoo.com.br and it > bounced. So, I'm forced to answer via the LinuxBIOS mailing list. > Sorry. > > Sincerely, > > Ken Fuchs <kfuchs(a)winternet.com> > _______________________________________________ > Linuxbios mailing list > Linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios > _______________________________________________ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

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Enable or Disable ?
by Li-Ta Lo 07 May '04

07 May '04

Eric, I still don't understand why we have to enable some device even the config file says the device is disabled. The code in pci_device.c:pci_scan_bus() if (dev->chip && dev->chip->control && dev->chip->control->enable_dev) { int enabled = dev->enabled; dev->enabled = 1; dev->chip->control->enable_dev(dev); dev->enabled = enabled; } tries to ignore the dev->enabled flag and enable the device. Later the enable_dev() or enable() is called again. Ollie

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答复: V1 2 superio chips of the same type
by YhLu 07 May '04

07 May '04

Where can I find the latest ADLO and BOCHS? I want to boot windows 2000 with it? YH -----邮件原件----- 发件人: Adam Sulmicki [mailto:adam@cfar.umd.edu] 发送时间: 2004年5月7日 12:04 收件人: Richard Smith 抄送: stepan(a)openbios.org; ron minnich; linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org 主题: Re: V1 2 superio chips of the same type > >>I also currently use ADLO and LILO. > > > > I'm curious, how many people actually use ADLO? I had been recently > > speaking with Kevin Lawton (of BOCHS fame) and he was curious about it. He > > also mentioned that BOCHS runs Windows XP (well) those days and was > > curious if this success has been transposed into ADLO as well. > > Does the BIOS of later versions of BOCHS handle video int10 replacement > correctly? That would make my life a whole lot easier right now. uh, I don't remember it being problem i the first place. _______________________________________________ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

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Is possible Linux on flash memory?
by Flavio Tobias 07 May '04

07 May '04

How can I boot and run Linux from a PenDrive or CompactFlash or other kind of flash memory device? How can I do that? There is some documentation about this? There is motherboards that suport this? Wich ones? Thanks Flavio --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Fale com seus amigos online. Instale agora!

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Diskless Windows??
by Brian Gregor 07 May '04

07 May '04

Is it possible to use LinuxBIOS to boot Windows 2000 diskless? Thanks, Brian

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FILO boot from SATA disk on SI 3114.
by YhLu 06 May '04

06 May '04

With some changes to filo, the sata can be used as normal IDE device in filo. Last problem in filo is only can boot from port 0 and port 1, and can not boot from port 2 and port 3. That is SI 3114 limitation. After install SUSE 9 Pro for AMD64, use following can boot into disk. hde2:/boot/vmlinuz initrd=/boot/initrd ro root=/dev/sda2 console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200 Please note "root=/dev/sda2", because kernel in Suse think it is SCSI just as new 2.6 kernel. regards YH -----邮件原件----- 发件人: YhLu 发送时间: 2004年4月28日 21:12 收件人: ron minnich; Langlois Evan 抄送: Hendricks David W.; linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org 主题: Re: LinuxBIOS Video? 1. S2875 support is in the CVS tree already. 2. ATI randon --- At this time, you may not get the output from very beginning. 3. boot sata --- good question, I will try that. Maybe need to add some code in filo. Regards YH _______________________________________________ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios(a)clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

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答复: 答复: Which kernel for framebuffering?
by YhLu 06 May '04

06 May '04

So the IBM MB does't work again? Can not get output in CRT or sth? YH -----邮件原件----- 发件人: Li-Ta Lo [mailto:ollie@lanl.gov] 发送时间: 2004年5月6日 14:46 收件人: YhLu 抄送: Hendricks David W.; LinuxBIOS 主题: Re: 答复: Which kernel for framebuffering? On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 13:39, YhLu wrote: did you do anything with the LDT/Resource for VGA Card ? We have problem on the IBM/e325 which has different HT topology with hdama. Ollie > > Worked nicely :) The keyboard worked at FILO, but did not work after the > kernel booted. It didn't even show IRQ 1 in /proc/interrupts. Weird, but I > guess that's another matter. I'm just very, very happy to see Linux boot > into a console I can see on a real monitor :) > > On Tue, 4 May 2004, YhLu wrote: > > > David, > > > > Please refer to the patch for 2.4.22 and 2.6.5, or you can put that in CVS > > ... > > > > Also please refer to the matix to see which kernel you want to use. > > > > Please make sure enable ati xl framebuffer only in kernel config. ( don't > > enable noinit) > > > > Regards > > > > YH > >

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