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Analysis of the current state and proposed future path for SeaBIOS.
by Fred . 10 Dec '11

10 Dec '11

Analysis of the current state and proposed future path for SeaBIOS. == Website == The current SeaBIOS website lacks information and is very basic. SeaBIOS needs a more informative website with documentation and information. == Logo == SeaBIOS have no logo. Award/Phoenix, AMI, Insyde, etc have a logo. Perhaps SeaBIOS should have a logo too? == Features & Standards == In many aspects SeaBIOS is behind the competition. * Award/Phoenix, AMI, Inside have setup screen. SeaBIOS does not. SeaBIOS _needs_ a setup menu in order to win the minds of enthusiasts, geeks and non-embedded systems. * Competition have password protection. SeaBIOS does not. * SeaBIOS is behind in standards. SeaBIOS supports SMBIOS 2.4, while the competition is ahead, and the recent standard is SMBIOS 2.7.1. * SeaBIOS does not support ESCD. The competition supports this. * SeaBIOS does not support (GUID Partition Table) GPT. It seems the competition does not either. However it is possible to implement GPT support in BIOS. Doing so would give SeaBIOS a competitive advantage over the competition. * SeaBIOS supports USB UHCI and OHCI. It should support the latest xHCI. * SeaBIOS supports 32-bit PCI. It should support 64-bit PCI. * Competition supports small logos in the corners. SeaBIOS only supports fullscreen logos. What features are under development? What features & standards are not supported yet? What features would we like to have? What features are planned? We need to document this. == Unimportant features == * SeaBIOS does not support the PNG format which is superior to currently BMP and JPG. * SeaBIOS uses LZMA compression. The successor LZMA2 is out. * Linux and Windows have animated splash screens on bootup. It would be cool if SeaBIOS could have animated flash, via APNG or MNG. == Usage & Community == SeaBIOS is used by coreboot, KVM, QEMU and Bochs. SeaBIOS should be used more widely on platforms and platform virtual machines. SeaBIOS should be supported by VirtualBox and VMware, can this be accomplished? how? What other platform virtual machines can SeaBIOS be supported/integrated with? The different communities needs to work tighter together to commonly develop SeaBIOS into a tier one BIOS.

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Re: [SeaBIOS] usb boot issue
by Kevin O'Connor 10 Dec '11

10 Dec '11

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 03:56:48PM +0200, Wolfgang Kamp - datakamp wrote: > > Hi, > > is there any solution for the usb boot issue of the AMD SB800 Persimmon platform > with SeaBIOS 1.6.3 and actual Coreboot version? I'm unfamiliar with the issue. Can you post the SeaBIOS debug output along with a description of the issue you are seeing? -Kevin

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by Fred . 10 Dec '11

10 Dec '11

Analyze of the current state and proposed future path for SeaBIOS. == Website == The current SeaBIOS website lacks information and is very basic. SeaBIOS needs a more informative website with documentation and information. == Logo == SeaBIOS have no logo. Award/Phoenix, AMI, Insyde, etc have a logo. Perhaps SeaBIOS should have a logo too? == Features & Standards == In many aspects SeaBIOS is behind the competition. * Award/Phoenix, AMI, Inside have setup screen. SeaBIOS does not. SeaBIOS _needs_ a setup menu in order to win the minds of enthusiasts, geeks and non-embedded systems. * Competition have password protection. SeaBIOS does not. * SeaBIOS is behind in standards. SeaBIOS supports SMBIOS 2.4, while the competition is ahead, and the recent standard is SMBIOS 2.7.1. * SeaBIOS does not support ESCD. The competition supports this. * SeaBIOS does not support (GUID Partition Table) GPT. It seems the competition does not either. However it is possible to implement GPT support in BIOS. Doing so would give SeaBIOS a competitive advantage over the competition. * SeaBIOS supports USB UHCI and OHCI. It should support the latest xHCI. * SeaBIOS supports 32-bit PCI. It should support 64-bit PCI. * Competition supports small logos in the corners. SeaBIOS only supports fullscreen logos. What features are under development? What features & standards are not supported yet? What features would we like to have? What features are planned? We need to document this. == Unimportant features == * SeaBIOS does not support the PNG format which is superior to currently BMP and JPG. * SeaBIOS uses LZMA compression. The successor LZMA2 is out. * Linux and Windows have animated splash screens on bootup. It would be cool if SeaBIOS could have animated flash, via APNG or MNG. == Usage & Community == SeaBIOS is used by coreboot, KVM, QEMU and Bochs. SeaBIOS should be used more widely on platforms and platform virtual machines. SeaBIOS should be supported by VirtualBox and VMware, can this be accomplished? how? What other platform virtual machines can SeaBIOS be supported/integrated with? The different communities needs to work tighter together to commonly develop SeaBIOS into a tier one BIOS.

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Re: [SeaBIOS] Simple Boot Flag Specification
by David Hendricks 10 Dec '11

10 Dec '11

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Fred . <eldmannen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Faster booting due to not POSTing. > SBFS doesn't really speed up boot or prevent "POSTing," unless perhaps you're running on one of those firmware implementations that look more like middleware bloat. That use case doesn't exist in the coreboot and SeaBIOS world :-)

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Re: [SeaBIOS] Simple Boot Flag Specification
by Peter Stuge 10 Dec '11

10 Dec '11

Hi Fred, Please remember to avoid top-posting. It makes mailing list discussions incredibly awkward to follow. Fred . wrote: > >> I am not a programmer. > >> But I looked at the specification and it looks short and simple, so it > >> looks like it would be quick and easy for a programmer to implement. > > > > What would be the benefit? > > Faster booting Did you use SeaBIOS and found it to be too slow? > due to not POSTing. What, concretely, do you mean by POSTing here? I expect you have already studied what SeaBIOS does and does not do when it runs.. //Peter

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Re: [SeaBIOS] Simple Boot Flag Specification
by Peter Stuge 10 Dec '11

10 Dec '11

Fred . wrote: > I am not a programmer. > But I looked at the specification and it looks short and simple, so it > looks like it would be quick and easy for a programmer to implement. What would be the benefit? //Peter

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Add bootsplash.jpg and bootsplash.bmp file in tree
by Fred . 09 Dec '11

09 Dec '11

Add a default bootsplash.jpg and bootsplash.bmp file in the source tree.

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Re: [SeaBIOS] Simple Boot Flag Specification
by Peter Stuge 09 Dec '11

09 Dec '11

Fred . wrote: > Add support for Simple Boot Flag Specification. > http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/resources/respec/specs/simp_boot.mspx Please send patches. Thanks in advance! //Peter

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Simple Boot Flag Specification
by Fred . 09 Dec '11

09 Dec '11

Add support for Simple Boot Flag Specification. http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/resources/respec/specs/simp_boot.mspx

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Request: add support for animated splash screens
by Fred . 07 Dec '11

07 Dec '11

In the Windows splash screen the Windows logo is glowing. It would be nice if SeaBIOS supported animated splash screens. This could be done with APNG or MNG. Even GIF, though it has color depth limitations.

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