FYI, the SeaBIOS mailing list backend was recently updated (upgrade to Mailman3). Service should not be impacted, but if anyone does experience an issue then please let me know.
Cheers, -Kevin
On 01/08/19 23:52, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
FYI, the SeaBIOS mailing list backend was recently updated (upgrade to Mailman3). Service should not be impacted, but if anyone does experience an issue then please let me know.
Indeed, I ran into a problem with this recently. I wanted to reference an earlier SeaBIOS thread -- that I do have locally -- on edk2-devel, but it took too much effort until I found the right archive URL. Namely:
(1) The Wiki article at
https://www.seabios.org/Mailinglist
is now out of date; the link http://www.seabios.org/mailman/listinfo/seabios is stale. I think it should be https://mail.coreboot.org/postorius/lists/seabios.seabios.org/ instead.
(2) The other link in the same article, http://www.seabios.org/pipermail/seabios/, while functional, points to an archive that does not seem to include messages past December 2018 (such as your message I'm responding to). We should probably add https://mail.coreboot.org/hyperkitty/list/seabios@seabios.org/ as well.
(3) Postorius, the new web interface [*], is an atrocity. But, I'm a dinosaur, so do ignore this complaint...
[*] I used to think that the new (mailman3) WebUI was called HyperKitty, but apparently HyperKitty is a back-end component: http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/config-web.html.
Thanks, Laszlo
Please tell, will the old ASCII mailing list archive continue to work and get the new messages? I found it as really convenient to wget and observe with lightweight browsers or even console "links"
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 5:03 PM Laszlo Ersek lersek@redhat.com wrote:
On 01/08/19 23:52, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
FYI, the SeaBIOS mailing list backend was recently updated (upgrade to Mailman3). Service should not be impacted, but if anyone does experience an issue then please let me know.
Indeed, I ran into a problem with this recently. I wanted to reference an earlier SeaBIOS thread -- that I do have locally -- on edk2-devel, but it took too much effort until I found the right archive URL. Namely:
(1) The Wiki article at
https://www.seabios.org/Mailinglist
is now out of date; the link http://www.seabios.org/mailman/listinfo/seabios is stale. I think it should be https://mail.coreboot.org/postorius/lists/seabios.seabios.org/ instead.
(2) The other link in the same article, http://www.seabios.org/pipermail/seabios/, while functional, points to an archive that does not seem to include messages past December 2018 (such as your message I'm responding to). We should probably add https://mail.coreboot.org/hyperkitty/list/seabios@seabios.org/ as well.
(3) Postorius, the new web interface [*], is an atrocity. But, I'm a dinosaur, so do ignore this complaint...
[*] I used to think that the new (mailman3) WebUI was called HyperKitty, but apparently HyperKitty is a back-end component: http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/config-web.html.
Thanks, Laszlo _______________________________________________ SeaBIOS mailing list -- seabios@seabios.org To unsubscribe send an email to seabios-leave@seabios.org
On 1/9/19 7:01 PM, Mike Banon wrote:
Please tell, will the old ASCII mailing list archive continue to work and get the new messages? I found it as really convenient to wget and observe with lightweight browsers or even console "links"
This is also useful when you want to reply to a thread previous to your subscription date, since you can fetch the archive, import it in your local mailer then reply.
On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 03:02:54PM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
On 01/08/19 23:52, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
FYI, the SeaBIOS mailing list backend was recently updated (upgrade to Mailman3). Service should not be impacted, but if anyone does experience an issue then please let me know.
Indeed, I ran into a problem with this recently. I wanted to reference an earlier SeaBIOS thread -- that I do have locally -- on edk2-devel, but it took too much effort until I found the right archive URL. Namely:
(1) The Wiki article at
https://www.seabios.org/Mailinglist
is now out of date; the link http://www.seabios.org/mailman/listinfo/seabios is stale. I think it should be https://mail.coreboot.org/postorius/lists/seabios.seabios.org/ instead.
(2) The other link in the same article, http://www.seabios.org/pipermail/seabios/, while functional, points to an archive that does not seem to include messages past December 2018 (such as your message I'm responding to). We should probably add https://mail.coreboot.org/hyperkitty/list/seabios@seabios.org/ as well.
(3) Postorius, the new web interface [*], is an atrocity. But, I'm a dinosaur, so do ignore this complaint...
[*] I used to think that the new (mailman3) WebUI was called HyperKitty, but apparently HyperKitty is a back-end component: http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/config-web.html.
Thanks, Laszlo
Thanks Laszlo.
Patrick, can you confirm that we need to update the above links? Also, a few people asked if we could support the format of the older mail archives - is that possible?
Thanks, -Kevin
Hi Kevin, Laszlo,
9. Januar 2019 19:38, "Kevin O'Connor" kevin@koconnor.net schrieb:
Patrick, can you confirm that we need to update the above links?
Yes, the links changed because the entire architecture changed.
I kept pipermail as a read-only copy so old links into the archive keep working (as far as possible: pipermail links are notoriously unreliable).
Also, a few people asked if we could support the format of the older mail archives - is that possible?
It seems that mailman3 allows multiple message archive systems, with hyperkitty being the only one supported right now.
A pipermail-style backend that creates a plain html archive would certainly be a welcome addition, as Laszlo definitely isn't the only "dinosaur" (I'd propose some changes though: for example basing the URL on the hashed message-id, like hyperkitty does, instead of pipermail's plain counter, improves URL stability), but I'm not sure if my python-fu is up to the levels to quickly build something like that.
Once it exists, I'll happily integrate it, though.
Patrick
On 01/10/19 12:10, Patrick Georgi wrote:
Hi Kevin, Laszlo,
- Januar 2019 19:38, "Kevin O'Connor" kevin@koconnor.net schrieb:
Patrick, can you confirm that we need to update the above links?
Yes, the links changed because the entire architecture changed.
I kept pipermail as a read-only copy so old links into the archive keep working (as far as possible: pipermail links are notoriously unreliable).
Also, a few people asked if we could support the format of the older mail archives - is that possible?
It seems that mailman3 allows multiple message archive systems, with hyperkitty being the only one supported right now.
A pipermail-style backend that creates a plain html archive would certainly be a welcome addition, as Laszlo definitely isn't the only "dinosaur" (I'd propose some changes though: for example basing the URL on the hashed message-id, like hyperkitty does, instead of pipermail's plain counter, improves URL stability), but I'm not sure if my python-fu is up to the levels to quickly build something like that.
Once it exists, I'll happily integrate it, though.
Message-Id-based archive URLs are the best. GMANE used to support that, but GMANE is dead. mail-archive.com and public-inbox.org also support Message-Id-based archive URLs, and I think we could simply subscribe at least mail-archive.com's agent to the seabios list:
https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#newlist
Of course, it would be best if the list's own hosting provided the MID-based search / URLs too.
... Wait, am I dumb? Yeah, I'm dumb. Because, mail-archive.com is already subscribed to the seabios list:
https://www.mail-archive.com/seabios@seabios.org/ https://www.mail-archive.com/seabios@seabios.org/info.html
So, I'd suggest incorporating these links (as secondary archive URLs) into the wiki article as well.
And, for example, here's a Message-ID based URL pointing to the initial message of the current thread:
http://mid.mail-archive.com/20190108225218.GA13236@morn.lan
Thanks! Laszlo
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 07:14:14PM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
https://www.mail-archive.com/seabios@seabios.org/ https://www.mail-archive.com/seabios@seabios.org/info.html
So, I'd suggest incorporating these links (as secondary archive URLs) into the wiki article as well.
Thanks. I made the suggested changes (commit d62ca8c9).
-Kevin
On 01/20/19 18:07, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 07:14:14PM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
https://www.mail-archive.com/seabios@seabios.org/ https://www.mail-archive.com/seabios@seabios.org/info.html
So, I'd suggest incorporating these links (as secondary archive URLs) into the wiki article as well.
Thanks. I made the suggested changes (commit d62ca8c9).
Thank you, Kevin!
While the article at https://www.seabios.org/Mailinglist looks good, the third link, in:
Messages prior to January 2019 are archived at: http://www.seabios.org/mailman/listinfo/seabios/
is still broken; it is redirected to https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/seabios/, and there I get
Page not found This page either doesn't exist, or it moved somewhere else.
Thanks! Laszlo
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 07:03:57PM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
On 01/20/19 18:07, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 07:14:14PM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
https://www.mail-archive.com/seabios@seabios.org/ https://www.mail-archive.com/seabios@seabios.org/info.html
So, I'd suggest incorporating these links (as secondary archive URLs) into the wiki article as well.
Thanks. I made the suggested changes (commit d62ca8c9).
Thank you, Kevin!
While the article at https://www.seabios.org/Mailinglist looks good, the third link, in:
Messages prior to January 2019 are archived at: http://www.seabios.org/mailman/listinfo/seabios/
is still broken; it is redirected to https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/seabios/, and there I get
Page not found This page either doesn't exist, or it moved somewhere else.
Oops. Thanks for pointing it out. Should be fixed now.
-Kevin
On 01/21/19 19:19, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 07:03:57PM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
On 01/20/19 18:07, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 07:14:14PM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
https://www.mail-archive.com/seabios@seabios.org/ https://www.mail-archive.com/seabios@seabios.org/info.html
So, I'd suggest incorporating these links (as secondary archive URLs) into the wiki article as well.
Thanks. I made the suggested changes (commit d62ca8c9).
Thank you, Kevin!
While the article at https://www.seabios.org/Mailinglist looks good, the third link, in:
Messages prior to January 2019 are archived at: http://www.seabios.org/mailman/listinfo/seabios/
is still broken; it is redirected to https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/seabios/, and there I get
Page not found This page either doesn't exist, or it moved somewhere else.
Oops. Thanks for pointing it out. Should be fixed now.
It is, thanks! Laszlo
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