Re: [flashrom] Ubuntu daily builds PPA

[Stefan Tauner]

On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 15:00:08 -0800
Svetoslav Trochev  wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Stefan Tauner
>  wrote:
> > On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 14:05:20 -0800
> > Svetoslav Trochev  wrote:
> > > > i have setup a flashrom poject at http://launchpad.net/flashrom which
> > > > auto-imports the svn every 6 hours and a package archive at
> > > > http://launchpad.net/~flashrom-developers/+archive/flashrom-daily
> > > > where new binaries are generated once a day whenever the svn has
> > > > changed.
> > >
> > > I found about daily PPA about couple days ago here:
> > > http://flashrom.org/Downloads. And used it to collect data from
> > > several boards. Is there plan to update the wiki page with info about
> > > the new PPA?
> >
> > jup, i have updated the wiki page before sending the "announce" mail.
> > what information do you think is missing/should be added?
>
> Ok. I was a bit confused as new person to the project.
> There are 4 links: (package overview) [1], (questions) [2], (bugreports) [3]
> Let say, I am using Ubuntu 10.04LTS and I want to download and install
> latest well tested (stable) version of flashrom. I tried the first
> link and there only can see version: 0.9.1+r946-1ubuntu1.
> Next two links didn't help at all. Finally I found the
> 0.9.5.1+r1508-1-20120303~lucid1 version in daily build PPA [4]. I
> don't know how the releases are handled, but my experience is that
> most of the daily PPAs brake without any notice. This made me quite
> uncomfortable to flash M/B using daily build version. I am sure that I
> sound quite stupid right now, but I hope that we can provide a bit
> more clear picture how the binaries for Ubuntu are maintained and what
> version should be used. I hope that this small improvement will lower
> the barrier for entrance of new people and help flashrom project as
> whole.
>
> [1] http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashrom
> [2] http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashrom/+questions?field.status...
> [3] http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashrom/+bugs?field.status:list=NE...
> [4] http://code.launchpad.net/~flashrom-developers/+archive/flashrom-daily

thanks for the verbose explanation!
i have removed the answers and bugs links (nice idea of whoever added
them, but i don't think they are useful. ubuntu users should be able to
follow the links on the package overview page to that sections) and
i have added more detail to the PPA description and the safety of the
binaries.
lowering the barrier for new and unexperienced ubuntu users might not
necessarily help flashrom on the whole nor those users ;) if they are
unsure they should ask us first.

Ubuntu daily builds PPA

[Svetoslav Trochev]

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> thanks for the verbose explanation!
> i have removed the answers and bugs links (nice idea of whoever added
> them, but i don't think they are useful. ubuntu users should be able to
> follow the links on the package overview page to that sections) and
> i have added more detail to the PPA description and the safety of the
> binaries.

Thank you. It is much clear now.
> lowering the barrier for new and unexperienced ubuntu users might not
> necessarily help flashrom on the whole nor those users ;) if they are
> unsure they should ask us first.

Ah... It took me a second to sink in, but I see your point. :) I know
that Ubuntu is rocking the boat too much lately, but I had chance to
meat Mr. Shuttleworth once and I believe that his hearth and head are
in the right place. He likes FOSS and is putting his money behind it.
That is the only reason I like Ubuntu. :) But I agree 100% with you.
My advice would be: If you never killed(a.k.a bricked) a mainboard or
laptop while you flashing the system ROM, ASK FIRST. It saves you a
lot of pain and money.

Thanks again,
Svetoslav.
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