On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 03:38:01 +0100 Peter Stuge peter@stuge.se wrote:
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
two logos
I'd recommend avoiding that. It becomes confusing for people.
Not necessarily... the facebook "f" or linkedin "in" are examples where parts of the lettering are reused in icons. Based on that idea I have created a lettering containing the SOIC chip and bolt. I doubt this would produce any confusion :)
Hi,
I have put most of my creations online together with some of the (old) alternatives and created a poll that should help finding the most popular ones. Please vote only once (the site will not try to inhibit multiple votes).
http://epicdecide.com/bac504d1-0061-46c4-ac7c-9beecaba87e0/
The images are shown in random order which makes it a bit hard to compare similar ones... just follow your gut feeling or look at them more closely here: http://buildbot.flashrom.org/poll/
You can enter a name at the bottom which I would appreciate. (I can only see the name not how anybody has voted). Any additional comments are very much welcomed! If you think all of them are crap and you have some better ideas I'd like to hear them too :)
Not that I care much, but I can't help it: this new symbol looks very much like the infamous SS Bolts: http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/ss-bolts.html#.VPSXeFX3-...
--vb
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Stefan Tauner stefan.tauner@alumni.tuwien.ac.at wrote:
Hi,
I have put most of my creations online together with some of the (old) alternatives and created a poll that should help finding the most popular ones. Please vote only once (the site will not try to inhibit multiple votes).
http://epicdecide.com/bac504d1-0061-46c4-ac7c-9beecaba87e0/
The images are shown in random order which makes it a bit hard to compare similar ones... just follow your gut feeling or look at them more closely here: http://buildbot.flashrom.org/poll/
You can enter a name at the bottom which I would appreciate. (I can only see the name not how anybody has voted). Any additional comments are very much welcomed! If you think all of them are crap and you have some better ideas I'd like to hear them too :)
-- Kind regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Stefan Tauner
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Thanks to everyone who has voted on the initial vote!
It has helped me a lot already to rule out a number of variations. It also showed clearly that the old logo is not popular at all and that manual kerning is preferred to default letter spaces (I am using the FreeMono font, which is monospaced so this is not too much of a surpise).
There are some other variables I'd like you to decide. There was some discussion about the flash outline already so I will create at least two sets of icons for that later. Maybe I'll try different fonts too, but I'd like to use a very common one and I think the FreeMono font suites us well... command line tool etc.
Anyway... first I'd like to define the color (scheme) to use. I have created another poll, please vote! http://epicdecide.com/3dc56f58-59f9-4921-b048-4cb89b48a09b/
If we go for one of the yellow schemes, an alternative for the icon would be to make it completely yellow without colored outlines like so: http://buildbot.flashrom.org/poll-colors/yellow_icon.png What do you think?
On 05.03.2015 02:05, Stefan Tauner wrote:
Thanks to everyone who has voted on the initial vote!
Are the results available?
Anyway... first I'd like to define the color (scheme) to use. I have created another poll, please vote! http://epicdecide.com/3dc56f58-59f9-4921-b048-4cb89b48a09b/
How much time do we have to vote? I had expected the old vote to stay active for at least a week.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 08:58:28 +0100 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
On 05.03.2015 02:05, Stefan Tauner wrote:
Thanks to everyone who has voted on the initial vote!
Are the results available?
Not publicly. Apparently one CAN look at every voter's result so I won't share the link publicly. I have sent it to you yesternight already on IRC.
Anyway... first I'd like to define the color (scheme) to use. I have created another poll, please vote! http://epicdecide.com/3dc56f58-59f9-4921-b048-4cb89b48a09b/
How much time do we have to vote? I had expected the old vote to stay active for at least a week.
It is still active and I monitor its activity but I don't believe that the outcome will change much anymore. I had wished for more than the mere 18 votes so far but the confidence level of the current results are high enough for me to draw conclusions. This is also true of the second poll on the color scheme. Its result are even more distinct so far. But nothing is set in stone yet and our bikeshedding of the logo will continue... :)
Do you know what we haven't done in a long time? A poll! ;) This time it's all about a few different flash symbols summarized in the attached image.
http://epicdecide.com/123fe27d-a4ff-4ab1-9bcd-b5efb267bdd5/
Please consider voting in the first two polls if you have not yet:
Basic choices: http://epicdecide.com/bac504d1-0061-46c4-ac7c-9beecaba87e0/
Colors: http://epicdecide.com/3dc56f58-59f9-4921-b048-4cb89b48a09b/
This will be the last poll that evaluates specific features of the logo. There may be another one to determine the final design.
I have selected a variety of fonts that I think are OK for a logo in terms of thickness and "playfulness". Not all of them are free but I have included them in the poll anyway to get a better feeling about general preferences.
http://epicdecide.com/ad3645e6-9a70-4cce-bd05-bf0e66e668e9/
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 18:07:51 +0100 Stefan Tauner stefan.tauner@alumni.tuwien.ac.at wrote:
Do you know what we haven't done in a long time? A poll! ;) This time it's all about a few different flash symbols summarized in the attached image.
http://epicdecide.com/123fe27d-a4ff-4ab1-9bcd-b5efb267bdd5/
Please consider voting in the first two polls if you have not yet:
Basic choices: http://epicdecide.com/bac504d1-0061-46c4-ac7c-9beecaba87e0/
Colors: http://epicdecide.com/3dc56f58-59f9-4921-b048-4cb89b48a09b/
On 11.03.2015 14:30, Stefan Tauner wrote:
This will be the last poll that evaluates specific features of the logo. There may be another one to determine the final design.
I have selected a variety of fonts that I think are OK for a logo in terms of thickness and "playfulness". Not all of them are free but I have included them in the poll anyway to get a better feeling about general preferences.
This is the first poll where I think that all of the options suck. Traditionally, flashrom is written all lowercase and I would love to keep it that way. However, the letter "f" in the logos sucks in all lowercase variants because of a IMHO way too high lateral stroke. That's something I didn't like about the intermediate official logo, by the way.
Does anyone know a font where the lowercase "f" doesn't look like a design error?
Regards, Carl-Daniel
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 08:37:49 +0100 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
On 11.03.2015 14:30, Stefan Tauner wrote:
This will be the last poll that evaluates specific features of the logo. There may be another one to determine the final design.
I have selected a variety of fonts that I think are OK for a logo in terms of thickness and "playfulness". Not all of them are free but I have included them in the poll anyway to get a better feeling about general preferences.
This is the first poll where I think that all of the options suck. Traditionally, flashrom is written all lowercase and I would love to keep it that way. However, the letter "f" in the logos sucks in all lowercase variants because of a IMHO way too high lateral stroke. That's something I didn't like about the intermediate official logo, by the way.
Does anyone know a font where the lowercase "f" doesn't look like a design error?
Well, that's more than subjective because the stroke is in the upper third or even quarter in almost all common fonts. And those where it is lower are usually completely unusable for a logo (extremely squiggly).
However, I am aware of one font, that might work... I have used it for a caps lettering already: Chaerilidae I have attached a lower-case variant with that font. What do you think about it?
Other suggestions for fonts are welcome...
How about making flashrom available for Bay Trail architecture?
13 mar 2015 kl. 14:36 skrev Stefan Tauner stefan.tauner@alumni.tuwien.ac.at:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 08:37:49 +0100 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
On 11.03.2015 14:30, Stefan Tauner wrote:
This will be the last poll that evaluates specific features of the logo. There may be another one to determine the final design.
I have selected a variety of fonts that I think are OK for a logo in terms of thickness and "playfulness". Not all of them are free but I have included them in the poll anyway to get a better feeling about general preferences.
This is the first poll where I think that all of the options suck. Traditionally, flashrom is written all lowercase and I would love to keep it that way. However, the letter "f" in the logos sucks in all lowercase variants because of a IMHO way too high lateral stroke. That's something I didn't like about the intermediate official logo, by the way.
Does anyone know a font where the lowercase "f" doesn't look like a design error?
Well, that's more than subjective because the stroke is in the upper third or even quarter in almost all common fonts. And those where it is lower are usually completely unusable for a logo (extremely squiggly).
However, I am aware of one font, that might work... I have used it for a caps lettering already: Chaerilidae I have attached a lower-case variant with that font. What do you think about it?
Other suggestions for fonts are welcome...
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On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:01:26 +0100 Berth-Olof Bergman bo.bergman@winzenttech.com wrote:
How about making flashrom available for Bay Trail architecture?
How about not hijacking an unrelated thread? How about checking for the existence of features before writing such impolite messages?
http://flashrom.org/Flashrom/0.9.8
Sorry, for the inconvenience! As you seem to work with flashrom, I just wonder why there are not an official release of flashrom with support for Bay Trail. There are patches, but the latest available flashrom did not contain Bay Trail support last time I looked.
13 mar 2015 kl. 15:45 skrev Stefan Tauner stefan.tauner@alumni.tuwien.ac.at:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:01:26 +0100 Berth-Olof Bergman bo.bergman@winzenttech.com wrote:
How about making flashrom available for Bay Trail architecture?
How about not hijacking an unrelated thread? How about checking for the existence of features before writing such impolite messages?
http://flashrom.org/Flashrom/0.9.8
Kind regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Stefan Tauner
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 14:36:35 +0100 Stefan Tauner stefan.tauner@alumni.tuwien.ac.at wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 08:37:49 +0100 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net wrote:
On 11.03.2015 14:30, Stefan Tauner wrote:
This will be the last poll that evaluates specific features of the logo. There may be another one to determine the final design.
I have selected a variety of fonts that I think are OK for a logo in terms of thickness and "playfulness". Not all of them are free but I have included them in the poll anyway to get a better feeling about general preferences.
This is the first poll where I think that all of the options suck. Traditionally, flashrom is written all lowercase and I would love to keep it that way. However, the letter "f" in the logos sucks in all lowercase variants because of a IMHO way too high lateral stroke. That's something I didn't like about the intermediate official logo, by the way.
Does anyone know a font where the lowercase "f" doesn't look like a design error?
Well, that's more than subjective because the stroke is in the upper third or even quarter in almost all common fonts. And those where it is lower are usually completely unusable for a logo (extremely squiggly).
However, I am aware of one font, that might work... I have used it for a caps lettering already: Chaerilidae I have attached a lower-case variant with that font. What do you think about it?
Other suggestions for fonts are welcome...
The other possibility - changing the fs in existing fonts - looks terrible IMHO (at least when I do it). See attachment for 3 attempts.
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