Hi,
right now the flashrom wiki is English-only and that is a big barrier for many people who don't speak English well (or at all). There have been offers by various people to translate key contents of the wiki to Russian and German, and I hope we can integrate multilanguage support in a way that works well and does not need excessive effort from translators.
There are two decisions we have to make: 1. URL schema for pages in non-English languages 2. URL schema for pages in English
Current schema is www.flashrom.org/$PAGENAME
One of the possible future schemata is: www.flashrom.org/$LANG/$PAGENAME The old www.flashrom.org/$PAGENAME would redirect to www.flashrom.org/en/$PAGENAME
Alternatives: www.flashrom.org/wiki/$LANG/$PAGENAME www.flashrom.org/$LANG/wiki/$PAGENAME $LANG.flashrom.org/$PAGENAME $LANG.flashrom.org/wiki/$PAGENAME
There are probably more options, but I wanted to start a discussion. Feel free to suggest totally different schemata, I'll listen.
There is one big caveat: The planned schema needs to be implementable with Mediawiki (and as few hacks as possible).
Regards, Carl-Daniel
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 04:35:33PM +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
Hi,
right now the flashrom wiki is English-only and that is a big barrier for many people who don't speak English well (or at all). There have been offers by various people to translate key contents of the wiki to Russian and German, and I hope we can integrate multilanguage support in a way that works well and does not need excessive effort from translators.
There are two decisions we have to make:
- URL schema for pages in non-English languages
- URL schema for pages in English
Current schema is www.flashrom.org/$PAGENAME
One of the possible future schemata is: www.flashrom.org/$LANG/$PAGENAME The old www.flashrom.org/$PAGENAME would redirect to www.flashrom.org/en/$PAGENAME
Alternatives: www.flashrom.org/wiki/$LANG/$PAGENAME www.flashrom.org/$LANG/wiki/$PAGENAME $LANG.flashrom.org/$PAGENAME $LANG.flashrom.org/wiki/$PAGENAME
There are probably more options, but I wanted to start a discussion. Feel free to suggest totally different schemata, I'll listen.
There is one big caveat: The planned schema needs to be implementable with Mediawiki (and as few hacks as possible).
Regards, Carl-Daniel
Eh?
How many lines of code is flashrom?
Have you seen wiki pages in multiple languages work, as in up to date, maintained and containing useful information, for projects 100x as big?
With the limited amount of manpower that is available for flashrom, don't we have better things to do?
Luc Verhaegen.
On 24.07.2010 18:57, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 04:35:33PM +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
right now the flashrom wiki is English-only and that is a big barrier for many people who don't speak English well (or at all). There have been offers by various people to translate key contents of the wiki to Russian and German, and I hope we can integrate multilanguage support in a way that works well and does not need excessive effort from translators.
How many lines of code is flashrom?
25000+ lines of code.
Have you seen wiki pages in multiple languages work, as in up to date, maintained and containing useful information, for projects 100x as big?
I'm not demanding complete translation. That's not feasible and would lead to frustration. The key is to define a few pages as important (main page, device support, contact, howto) and make sure those are up to date. That's what's sufficient for most users.
With the limited amount of manpower that is available for flashrom, don't we have better things to do?
We have people who can translate very well, and who want to focus on translation and user support. This work is not reducing the time they spend on flashrom development, but it has the potential to grow the userbase in countries where people do not speak English. As such, I strongly encourage those volunteers to help us become an international standard.
Regards, Carl-Daniel
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